if it is out out you will know .we are not hideing it from you.and if you bothered to read the thread and the other topics you know that people are trying to get this fixed. yup, that's the good thing about this forum, we can always rely on the information posted here. i'll be waiting for sure for the neoragex version. i had a little problem though, after mame32 load all the rom files up to 271-c8d.rom, suddenly everything stops and mame stops respoding too. any clue, i just wanna know what's wrong. thanks in advance