I like Oblivion & Fallout 3 the way they came out the box, NO MODS!!! Missing out on much, you are. Even if you don't like any of the custom content, there are a tonne of bug fixes in both games that the 360 versions will never have solved. The 360 does updates to patch bugs. Fallout 3 has only froze on me once, I've yet to see any of the bugs though. Oblivion add-ons always seemed too much, I liked the way the game was setup from the start.