Here's a quick suggestion, if Nintendo pisses you off so much JUST IGNORE WHAT THEY DO. They aren't harming you in anyway. Such rabid fanboyism and hatred amazes me when its about flocking VIDEO GAMES! Why should you care what Nintendo does? It's their money, their jobs, their reputation, not yours or mine. Hell, if there is one console I'd love to see fail is the PS3 because Ken Kutaragi is a cocky asshole. "We want you to work more to afford the PS3 so you can say to yourself 'Wow, I really earned it.'" (that's not a direct quote but that's what he was saying). "Oh yeah, this thing is a super computer compared to XBOX 1.5 LOL." Just today they announced that they aren't going to include the router capability because it's too expensive. What happened to all that posturing that PS3 is going to be the all-in-one ultimate home entertainment device? Of course, do I really care what happens to either console? No, I'm just a consumer who doesn't buy into bullshit. If enough games come out on either of the system that I want to play then I'll get it. Also, Nintendo is going to market the Revolution as a budget price console which I think is the right thing to do. They realize that you don't need an extremely powerful processor or GPU for a compelling game experience. But I have to correct you on one thing. Revolution discs will be 12 cm. (the size of DVD) and the system will about the size of 2 to 3 DVD cases so I don't think they'll have any trouble fitting a DVD in.