I'm not saying this is entirely untrue, but I'm not seeing how, really. Former police states had national IDs, but having national IDs does not make a country a police state. As long as it's JUST a means of identifying a person, what (and this is an honest question, not a smart-ass remark) makes people think it will turn us into a police state? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I said it makes us closer to a police state, not an actual police state. It could just be a harmless identity card like you suggest. But stuff like the remote tracking thing can allow the Federal government to just as easily use it in support of a police state. But why is there even a need for a national card when the federal government already issues social security cards which are already our main identity card. The states should be capable of handling the IDs so why is the federal government now trying to step in? But I'm also paranoid and distrustful of centralized power so my opinions will obviously be skewed. But what a coincidence, my current outstanding issue in NationStates Big Brother anti-crime stuff: