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Ok, I have to respond to that last part. I am NOT prejudiced against their culture. I love Eastern people. Just because I don't like their style of RPGs doesn't make me biased against them as a people or their culture. If Eastern RPG developers made games that catered to my tastes then I would defintely play them.

I hope you don't mind if I reply to that post sometime later tonight or tomorrow at work. Right now I'm juggling my lab report and studying for my Developmental Biology test. Just don't get the idea that I'm assing out because I haven't replied quickly, I have a ton of work. Also, let's keep it civil otherwise somone might close this thread and I don't want to happen till atleast I get to post again. Looks like I won't be doing anything productive at work again. I should have just put IN MY HUMBLE OPINION as the first line of that post.

Ok, fine. I was just caught up in the moment. For the record I like Chrono Trigger and Breath of Fire 2 a lot.

I forget what they use, I never really got into it. All I played was AD&D 2.5 and Shadowrun.

No, it comes from the Vampire the Masquerade pen and paper role playing game made by White Wolf.

Have you even played Fallout? If you have then you wouldn't something like that. Also, I could care less about the story of a game if it played like crap (like your Eastern games do). You can give me the most cliched "unknown hero must save the kingdom" story and I won't care if the gameplay is great and I enjoy playing it. Also, with our Western RPGs we are given a nice character creation system where we can build our character how we want to. If I want to be stealthy, I'll give more points to skills that help me there, if I want to be a mage, I'll put points to help magic. Also, if I'm not mistaken isn't it in your Eastern RPGs where you are just given a character (who is usually some kind of fighter with a big head and a faggoty haircut) to play as with no way to personalize him? I think you should think before you speak. Again with the story...I already took care of that above. But that's the style of Western RPGs, they are usually a whole bunch of quests (that you may or may not chose to do if they are not part of the main quest) that eventually come together to drive the main plot (however "lame" you may find it to be) forward. Atleast in Western RPGs the gameplay is not linear as it is in your Eastern games. I don't play a game and go "Oh boy I hope the ending the good!" I play the game for the game itself and what it has to offer. Ofcourse, I do like a good resolution to a game, Fallout 1 has one of the best endings ever. So wait...what exactly do you do in your Eastern RPGs? Do you stick your dick into the socket and have sex with it? If I'm not mistaken (2nd time I've said that) isn't that what you do in those games too? Don't you fight a whole bunch of little enemies and level up your character and then fight a big boss. Wash rinse repeat. Also, don't most games have a "just to kill the boss" thing going for them? I sure as hell think they do. How do you Eastern RPGs resolve your game? That's something I don't really care about in games to the same degree as Eastern RPGers do. I have never felt any emotion to any character within a video game. The most a game has done to me emotionally is made me laugh or just made me happy because I'm enjoying the experience. But hey, that's just me, I'm pretty emotionally detached from most things especially video games. Saying that all Western RPGs have to offer is what you stated above is stupid. RPG stands for ROLE PLAYING GAME (of course it can be argued that ALL games are role playing games but let's not get into semantics). To me the essense of a role playing game is to create create role and to make decisions in the game which guide that character to greatness. Literature and moviews are completely different from video games because it's not an interactive experience. That's what makes video games so special, the fact that you are actually doing it which is precisely the reason I like Western style RPGs. If I want a nice story with deep characters and great plot, I'll go to the bookstore and get a book. I play RPGs because they allow me to interact with a different world and where my character can have meaninful growth. Is it so hard to grasp that some people just don't like the games you do? These are all just opinions, it's what makes being human a good thing. We all have our own tastes. Damn, my longest post in a while.

Because that would be illegal. And there's no need to bump up a thread this old.

You cannot run any games yet. If you are trying to run test files (which I doubt you are) then just go to File -> Open and load them.

Like this guy: http://waitingforstarwars.blogspot.com/ ?

And just the other day LucasArts flexed its muscles by saying they were going to stop leaks such as this.

Good thing I don't care about spoilers since I know how the movie is going to end. General Grevious looks like a badass.

Yeah, Forgotten Realms has been done to death.

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But you like the same old medival wizards and warriors that westerns always use? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dungeons and Dragons IS wizards and warriors so you can't really deviate from that in those games. But my favorite RPGs are those that either use that formula well (BG 1 and 2 and NWN) or avoid it all together (Fallout, Deus Ex, System Shock, KOTOR). But Western RPGs don't put as much focus on the stories (they have decent stories though KOTOR is a great example) as their Eastern counterparts do, it's more about the role playing experience. It's easier to make a story for game that has little or no gameplay variation. In Western RPGs they have to balance factions and attitudes towards the player that can change depending on how you play.

...ok. Whatever. You may not know it but getting both sides of the story is a very important part in understanding what's going on. But we've postponed the show for that precise reason. We want to see how the rest of it pans out before anyone says anything.

We have decided to postpone the show and wait on the other developments made by the MAME team. After thinking it over, we believe it will be a more balanced show. There will be more juicy information then. So, Slashdotting will be postponed too.

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1.) I don't like the art style. 2.) I don't like the universe most of them are set in. 3.) I hate the lack of character creation and meaningful character development. 4.) I don't like the lack of multiple conversation paths that have consequences on the game. 5.) I just find them to be extremely dull. Is that clear enough?

Wasn't something called Blood Riddence or something similar along those lines based on Ravenloft? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmm...I will try to hunt that down. I actually have not heard of that game. Is that one of those old ones released by SSI or is it recent? If it's SSI then I probably missed out on it since there were quite a few. How was Fable? People who share my taste in games in other forums say it blows and just boils down to a linear hack n' slash. I haven't had an opportunity to play for more than 10 minutes, so to those who have played it, how about a nice short description of gameplay.

Woohoo! Nice stuff.

I wish they made more D&D games outside the Forgetten Realms campaign. There was only one Planescape and I can't recall any Ravenloft ones. I'm suprised I even remember Ravenloft, we played that on pen and paper only a few times. I haven't played Dark Alliance. Outside of seeing a few screenshots it doesn't look that great, looks like another mass market appealing game.

Well it's nice to know that they are working on it.

Hook you up with what? I liked both BG1 and BG2 a lot. I'm going to buy that BG1+BG2+Expansion pack thing whenever I see it.

Yeah, you can buy them. But I'd never pay for them, those aren't THAT cool.

I'll give that a go when I see a torrent. Agozer, I'd go for Baldur's Gate 2 or NWN over Morrowind because I'm a D&D whore. I think BG2 is one of the best and most fleshed out RPGs ever made.