wasn't taught in class. at all actually. heck, everyone else is making this project using basic polylines, to the extent that if i turn in my current version (0.15b) it would probably be much better that anything they've done. as for needing the coordinate files, i've made my own, but they look VERY VERY basic... that's why i want ready made ones that look good. anywho, help is still required (but thanks olaf) edit: oh and its not to show off exactly, but this is one of the few courses that i've got a chance to get an a at this semester, and i'm the highest grade in class... so everyone wants to knock me down. so i hafta do more than what's required so that i assure that i DON"T get knocked down. hey olaf, is there a text file with key maps in c++ somewhere?