Yeah I remember that, and the shoes with the groove cut into the sole. There is a sport in France, I can't remember the name, "Le P(something) where you jump off buildings, run up walls, do backflips along roof ledges and stuff. You have no safety equipment either. It's basically a mixture of martial arts and insanity, I have seen a couple videos. Now that IS extreme. Oh and if you have a fast connection, or you have dialup but don't mind waiting a couple of hours for something, then check this guy out. http://mysz.free.fr/JoeEigo-Sept-02.asf Cool does not even begin to describe him....