Actually, a 9600XT, 9700 Pro, 9800 Pro, 9800 XT can do just as fine. If your own a budget(which I can tell because of those cards). I suggest you get a 9800 Pro, which will last you 5 years at best. Although the X800 is out, it is merly a 9800XT running at a lower voltage. But it does beat nVidia out of the water and bitchslap it across the room.