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I still say that for video games at least (given the net-centric skewed population that plays them) the best advertisement is word of mouth.

Well.. except for the potentially superior graphics, mouse + keyboard control, and unsurpassed level of additional user-made content, including TC mods that amount to free online games. Granted, the graphics may not be a big deal for you, and you may not prefer a mouse + keyboard (which is crazy talk, but to each his own), or you may have a mouse + keyboard for the XBox. But, you can't dispute the extra content, except to make an extremely generalized "it all sucks" statement, which would just be stubborn. Both PC and consoles have their ups and downs, but neither is entirely eclipsed by the other. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Potentially" is the key word on graphics. I do prefer a mouse and keyboard, which IS available, if you really want one. And the extra content all sucks. No, some of the extra content is good. The biggest problems with PC games is the amount and cost of the equipment required to run them. An XBox, the game, a controller, and a 12 month LIVE subscription kit, costs about 300 dollars. A reasonably usable gaming PC costs at least 400. Which is what I paid for mine. But then, it was missing a monitor, windows software, speakers, a mouse & keyboard...and I STILL haven't gotten it working, because getting them working requires knowledge the masses don't have. Computers are too variable to find a good tutorial on how to get one running, and most forums tend to overwhelm new users. I'd try asking here, but I don't even know what I'd need to ask. And thanks for the Voxel info. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But you can use computers for things other than play games. My computer is like a multimedia system in that I watch all my movies on there (DVDs, etc...) because I prefer the extra 35hz refresh rate I get on a monitor (80hz compared to 50 for tvs). And because of the faster refresh rate, even a direct port from xbox to pc is going to look nicer, and the pc is far more cutting edge graphics wise anyway. Computers are easy to get running, just rtfm. Mouse and keyboard are infinitely better and you'd have them anyway so you don't need to buy them just for the xbox. I'm sure you could draw up a list that counters my list, and then I could deaw up a list to counter that. Basically, I guess, it all comes down to preference. edit: Whoops about the voxel thing. I confused "Voxal" with "vector" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What's rtfm? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Read The F*cking Manual <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I did read the manual, that's how I got it together in the first place. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought you said it wasn't working?

Well.. except for the potentially superior graphics, mouse + keyboard control, and unsurpassed level of additional user-made content, including TC mods that amount to free online games. Granted, the graphics may not be a big deal for you, and you may not prefer a mouse + keyboard (which is crazy talk, but to each his own), or you may have a mouse + keyboard for the XBox. But, you can't dispute the extra content, except to make an extremely generalized "it all sucks" statement, which would just be stubborn. Both PC and consoles have their ups and downs, but neither is entirely eclipsed by the other. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Potentially" is the key word on graphics. I do prefer a mouse and keyboard, which IS available, if you really want one. And the extra content all sucks. No, some of the extra content is good. The biggest problems with PC games is the amount and cost of the equipment required to run them. An XBox, the game, a controller, and a 12 month LIVE subscription kit, costs about 300 dollars. A reasonably usable gaming PC costs at least 400. Which is what I paid for mine. But then, it was missing a monitor, windows software, speakers, a mouse & keyboard...and I STILL haven't gotten it working, because getting them working requires knowledge the masses don't have. Computers are too variable to find a good tutorial on how to get one running, and most forums tend to overwhelm new users. I'd try asking here, but I don't even know what I'd need to ask. And thanks for the Voxel info. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But you can use computers for things other than play games. My computer is like a multimedia system in that I watch all my movies on there (DVDs, etc...) because I prefer the extra 35hz refresh rate I get on a monitor (80hz compared to 50 for tvs). And because of the faster refresh rate, even a direct port from xbox to pc is going to look nicer, and the pc is far more cutting edge graphics wise anyway. Computers are easy to get running, just rtfm. Mouse and keyboard are infinitely better and you'd have them anyway so you don't need to buy them just for the xbox. I'm sure you could draw up a list that counters my list, and then I could deaw up a list to counter that. Basically, I guess, it all comes down to preference. edit: Whoops about the voxel thing. I confused "Voxal" with "vector" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What's rtfm? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Read The F*cking Manual

Again, the Palestinian people are furious over the situation, the hate has been rising for generations and it periodically erupts in violence. So Arafat, short of tying up every Palestinian, could do little to stop the bloodshed. Also, the Israeli government/army have more than their share of blood on their hands, if we're going to start counting attrocities.

Winamp was getting bloaty in its later forms, maybe it was time for it to go. The question now is, what's next? Someone with enough programming experience will be angry at its demise. We can only hope. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WOW, did he really say that?

I can't choose because I have grown up with the Simpsons so it holds too dear a place in my heart to not choose it, and yet Family guy is so damn funny and I like that it has heaps more adult-oriented jokes.

Well, it's not exactly something to argue over, but... Ariel Sharon wasn't a 'terrorist', because his massacres were *state sponsored*, which historically is usually much much worse. It's surprising that he's actually on the right side in the settlement-withdrawal issue... whether that's a ploy or whether he's somehow miraculously reformed remains to be seen, but since I personally can't vote his clout away, I'll at least accept that he's not herding Palestinian refugees into hired fanatic anti-Muslim militias anymore. Anyway, if he's looking for redemption he's got a few lifetimes to go... but as long as he doesn't give it up, I'm not getting in his way. Second, I don't really care whether someone's called "terrorist" or not. It's not like a person's automatically a saint if no-one hangs that particular label on them. A person can only be judged by what they do and what they fail to do, not what people call them. Arafat's been around long before anyone knew Dubya, and he's been consistently militant - I would say "self-destructively so", except the only people he's been destroying are the Palestinians and a much smaller number of no less innocent Israeli civilians. This isn't a view I've picked up in the last 4 years, or off TV. I've been following this issue closely for 15 years, and my position on Arafat is unchanged. Arafat has *greatly* contributed to the negative opinion of Palestinians globally, and has basically done *nothing* to lead to peace - in fact quite the contrary. He's turned down chance after chance to avoid retributions, refugee camp raids, etc. He's a dumb, stubborn git. He thought it was fun to play chicken with Israel to the point he got his office building surrounded by tanks and his power cut out, while people were having heart-attacks inside, and guess what? He paints himself as the Hero Who Didn't Back Down. He's led his people to slaughter to keep that title. He's kept them living in a police state by forcefully "hogging the limelight" of Palestinian politics, all too happy to be Israel's poster-child for why it's Ok to bomb and bulldoze a poor and broken people. Arafat is the worst thing that could have happened to the Palestinians, and I say this having out and out wept for them many *many* times. Screw what the Bush administration says, I'm only thinking about all the people who are dead who shouldn't be. This guy smiled through it all. I don't celebrate people's deaths, hell, I don't even feel a wry superiority for surviving past them. I feel sad when someone dies, I'm a softie - but I sure as hell feel a lot sadder for all the people whose deaths this "militant media darling" could have prevented by not intentionally sabotaging every negotiative effort that's taken place over the years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I've got a very different opinion of Arafat, that he was a leader who did his best to keep the Palestinians from turning terrorist, while trying to get to a decent resolution in the negotiations. See the thing is, even if Arafat accepted some of the peace plans even though that would mean conceding to the Palestinians to a great deal, it's not as if he'd have been able to convince his people to go along with the deal. There'd still be fighting and terrorist attacks, the difference would have been Arafat would cease to have even the pretense of conrol over the Palestinian people. Oh and kyujenkiss, it's not Bush's fault that Israel and Palestine are at odds, but it IS his fault that the roadmap to peace isn't currently being put in action. You see, he didn't think of the roadmap, it was Britain and two other countries. But he did jump on board for the sole reason of stopping the plan from being put in action - he joined the crew, rhen promptly refused to negotiate with Palestine because he wouldn't negotiate with Arafat, therefore stalling the roadmap all together. And you'd have to be damn ignorant not to know THAT!

Well.. except for the potentially superior graphics, mouse + keyboard control, and unsurpassed level of additional user-made content, including TC mods that amount to free online games. Granted, the graphics may not be a big deal for you, and you may not prefer a mouse + keyboard (which is crazy talk, but to each his own), or you may have a mouse + keyboard for the XBox. But, you can't dispute the extra content, except to make an extremely generalized "it all sucks" statement, which would just be stubborn. Both PC and consoles have their ups and downs, but neither is entirely eclipsed by the other. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Potentially" is the key word on graphics. I do prefer a mouse and keyboard, which IS available, if you really want one. And the extra content all sucks. No, some of the extra content is good. The biggest problems with PC games is the amount and cost of the equipment required to run them. An XBox, the game, a controller, and a 12 month LIVE subscription kit, costs about 300 dollars. A reasonably usable gaming PC costs at least 400. Which is what I paid for mine. But then, it was missing a monitor, windows software, speakers, a mouse & keyboard...and I STILL haven't gotten it working, because getting them working requires knowledge the masses don't have. Computers are too variable to find a good tutorial on how to get one running, and most forums tend to overwhelm new users. I'd try asking here, but I don't even know what I'd need to ask. And thanks for the Voxel info. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But you can use computers for things other than play games. My computer is like a multimedia system in that I watch all my movies on there (DVDs, etc...) because I prefer the extra 35hz refresh rate I get on a monitor (80hz compared to 50 for tvs). And because of the faster refresh rate, even a direct port from xbox to pc is going to look nicer, and the pc is far more cutting edge graphics wise anyway. Computers are easy to get running, just rtfm. Mouse and keyboard are infinitely better and you'd have them anyway so you don't need to buy them just for the xbox. I'm sure you could draw up a list that counters my list, and then I could deaw up a list to counter that. Basically, I guess, it all comes down to preference. edit: Whoops about the voxel thing. I confused "Voxal" with "vector"

You are setting yourself up for some devastating examples. KOF, Metal Slug, Jet Set Radio, Samba de Amigo, and so on and so forth. Good games don't need to garner hype. It helps their sales, sure, but they are still, none the less, good games. Red Faction II is a damn fine FPS. Damn fine. It would be hard to pick between that and Halo. But, with Halo 2, it is a different story. Everything that made Red Faction better seems that have been implemented and improved in Halo 2. So, Red Faction has no ace in the hole to compete with Halo 2. Anon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My point was, that if no one knows that a game is good, then it will never be regarded as such. If you don't advertise your games and no one ever plays them, then what's the point of it being good? The problem with hype, is a lot of people go, "Hey, everyone likes this game so it must really suck." and refuse to play it. Popular games are popular for a reason. Jet Set Radio seemed pretty popular as I recall... Samba de Amigo is another thing I've never heard of, but judging from the nature of the site's members, I'd say it's another hardcore fighter. KOF seems kindof repetitive if they come out with one every year. I can't see it improving any more than a sports series. On top of that, most fighting games involve extremely complex terms and maneuvers. Non hardcore fighters get overwhelmed by them, and prefer to play simple fighters. Like Mortal Kombat, or Budokai, both popular. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well why was it that I've heard of every game mentioned in the recent dialogue, inclusing red faction (of course) and samba de amigo, and yet I'm in a backwater country where only a fraction of the time or money is spent on hyping games? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because you talk with these people more, who talk about these games. I'm assuming. Where'd you hear of them? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't remember these guys talking about any of those games, and if I did it wasn't how I heard of it. And even if it was, that would still count as me finding out about these games through channels other than the "hype" channels. There are lots of ways of finding out about games, and you don't need millions of dollars in advertising to do it. Look at the success of "uplink" for instance, which grew to a massive hit through word of mouth alone.

Just download it from the macromedia site, geez.

Actually, it's Ariel. And I agree, RIP Arafat.

The point is that making media like cds and dvds at the moment uses an incredible amount of our planet's dwindling natural resourses. This is a way to at least partly replace the ingredients with stuff that takes alot less long to grow (corn, which takes a few months to grow, as compared to say oil that takes millenia for fosillised remains to break down into liquid)

Actually , Yasser Arafat did all he could to stop the terrorist atacks. Sure, he was originally a member of the PLO so technically a terrorist, by that standard Ariel Sharon was a terrorist. Arafat was just scapegoated by Bush because Bush didn't want the roadmap to peace, or at least he wanted peace only in a way that would benefit Israel as much as possible, so he needed an excuse not to negotiate with Palestine. Crunk, crunk, crunk goes the propaganda division, and suddenly Arafat is the worst terrorist in the world next to bin Laden. And 97% of Americans fell for it, surprise surprise.

Sheesh, if/when k' comes back he's not going too feel to welcome here after all these negative comments

Also, you can add however many characters you want if you don't want to use a screen pack, you just need to make more character spaces.

LOL @ the picture! Let's play Caption This Picture "Honey, about last night...no no it was wonderful, it's just...you should get a blood test"

The first one? That really old Mechwarrior clone? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nono...ahh, what was it...it used the same perspective as Tomb Raider (3rd person view). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Alome in the Dark?

I've heard some fundamentalist christians in America are CELEBRATING his death. Way to fan the flames of hate guys (not you guys, them)

You are setting yourself up for some devastating examples. KOF, Metal Slug, Jet Set Radio, Samba de Amigo, and so on and so forth. Good games don't need to garner hype. It helps their sales, sure, but they are still, none the less, good games. Red Faction II is a damn fine FPS. Damn fine. It would be hard to pick between that and Halo. But, with Halo 2, it is a different story. Everything that made Red Faction better seems that have been implemented and improved in Halo 2. So, Red Faction has no ace in the hole to compete with Halo 2. Anon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My point was, that if no one knows that a game is good, then it will never be regarded as such. If you don't advertise your games and no one ever plays them, then what's the point of it being good? The problem with hype, is a lot of people go, "Hey, everyone likes this game so it must really suck." and refuse to play it. Popular games are popular for a reason. Jet Set Radio seemed pretty popular as I recall... Samba de Amigo is another thing I've never heard of, but judging from the nature of the site's members, I'd say it's another hardcore fighter. KOF seems kindof repetitive if they come out with one every year. I can't see it improving any more than a sports series. On top of that, most fighting games involve extremely complex terms and maneuvers. Non hardcore fighters get overwhelmed by them, and prefer to play simple fighters. Like Mortal Kombat, or Budokai, both popular. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well why was it that I've heard of every game mentioned in the recent dialogue, inclusing red faction (of course) and samba de amigo, and yet I'm in a backwater country where only a fraction of the time or money is spent on hyping games?

In other words, you don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot, and people are saying comments like that about you. Well learn from this.

Can't you just get chips that you can turn off when you go on LIVE?

I read through that thing last night, and yeah it does seem like there are downfalls in the multiplayer mode, but from what I can gather bungie did that on purpose to minimise cheating or unfair stats building. Even so, its placing artificcial constraints on gamers' options, so I don't think it will be well recieved.

I was practicing what you do constantly. I'll practice some more: "If skythe were to drop dead of a heart attack, I would dance a jig then hold a "dead skythe party", where the theme would be heart attacks so everyone would have to clutch their hearts all through the party".

I was going to try to find a picture of a Prince Albert, but I don;t think gamecop would be too happy with that! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I want to post a picture of Goatse but I don't think that would be too nice. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah I just found out that goatse is back, only it has a slightly different link (no 'e' in it anymore)

I was going to try to find a picture of a Prince Albert, but I don;t think gamecop would be too happy with that!