now that is pretty f*cken sweet right there eh You're too kind. I like yur avatar, nice effects. Pretty good sig too, I don't think i've ever seen Jedah animated for a sig on a forum. thanks, I appreciate it and making my sig wasn't as easy to make as some would usually think. I had to get the animation of jedah laughing and break it up into seperate frames, make the background along with the text(by using photoshop)...so I had to make like...4 frames or so, then I put them together using a program called gif movie gear. The hard thing about it was making sure that each Jedah frame was act the exact same place so it wouldn't show Jedah going all over the place. Ya, I know what u mean. I use imageready for my animations, had 12 frames I think. It is annoying making sure each image is in place for each frame, especially when u have a lot of frames. It's the worst when u screw up somehow n parts of images get cut off in frames or skip being in view, or get mixed up with another frame in the wrong place etc. etc. You ripped that Jedah on yur own i'm assuming? With this one I had trouble saving it to.gif while preserving the colors properly. For some reason it would save in a dulled color, but I figured it out. My other problem is trying to figure out how to combine frames from 2 animations into 1 animation without doing it manually image by image, frame by frame, if there is a command to do it for u.