But Skythe, what do you oh so mean by your message? I'm glad you asked Skythe. You see, this here is what's called a pissing match. Each side is trying to one up the other side with miniscule facts with no or little proof. And upon stating these said facts that he/she believe they've won the day. And let's not forget that there's always one or more people that claim that they in one way or another know the physical answer cuz they proclaimed they've physically dealt with whatever system they are defending. So this and any other thread like this is a spawn of the demon of stupidity. No one on either side do not realize that a real person on this planet does not give a fuk. I see Skythe. My eyes are finally open. You are truly a sex god of common sense knowledge. Hahahahahahah GOLD!