I don't think so. I don't even think they have enough in them to be considered 'expansion packs'. Wow, you have no idea what you are talking about. You obviously have not played VF4/VF4 evo. Said like a true VF fan. No matter how you slice it, there isn't enough content to call it a new game. It's as simple as that. Getting into whether updates between VFs themselves are too minor and incremental to even be called new games themselves is another issue, but you can probably guess how I feel on that topic too. The amount of effort AM2 puts into a VF update is twice the amount of effort Namco puts into a sequel. Basically the same can be said about T6. T6= an update of Tekken 5. No I am not talking like a true VF fan, I saying that because I have played the hell out of both VF4 and VF4 EVO. You obviously have not. An update in a VF game is on par if not better then a sequel when compared to other fighting games. Basically an update in a VF game is sequel quality with the same graphics engine. Once again, if you actually played VF4 then played VF4 EVO then you will know how much the game was improved and changed.