up Just thought as i opened the thread i ought to show the end (for me lol), also got the IDE hdd btw, just in time for EPiC :] So a xbox 'hackpad' was so much cheaper than buying a dedicated xbox stick (granted you own any other stick already...), just some wire and a db-15 male connector were needed. That way a neo-geo stick can be plugged, works perfect, and the pad still works like nothing happened. Of course, only 6 buttons in total (ABXY & start/back) can be used by the neo-geo stick, but no big deal, only so few titles make use of more than 4 buttons... The black and white buttons have been connected though, so if a 6button stick ever comes my way everything will be ready^^ The NG stick has such tight controls, it even works amazingly well with platform games. Playing donkey kong country wit htit feels way better than the xbox pad some pics (before applying the epoxy )