there needs to stop being versus threads with 360 vs ps3, it makes no sense most of the games being developed by 3rd party publishers are being made for both consoles, both consoles are almost identical power wise, with the 360 u got faster loading dvds and with the ps3 u got hd install with disc loading so the load speeds are not really an issue. what ya gonna complain the ps3 will eventually run out of hd space?? go buy a bigger hard drive the ps3 was made with this upgrade feature from the start i got a 250gb hard drive in my ps3 so space is the least of my worries, my main concerns with 360 is that they are getting decent exclusives but they only appeal to a small amount of gamers for that system and this crap they are doing with the dash board which they should leave alone they are blantly stealing ides from nintendo and sony . and ps3 is stalling home so much and building it up and when they release it its just gonna be meh i waited all this time for this. to me there is no console war anymore for me personally since the ps3 free online really isnt that bad i will buy for that console unless there some 360 exclusive i cant live without. and if the ps3 dies which i doubt it will i still have the 360 to fall back on. you know why cuz im a gamer when its all said and done its not about which system is better, its the fact that im playing a game that i enjoy period.