yeah i will give it to sega with VF series the revisions have been good ,but like BK said they intentionally do a realease with the anticipation of selling the revisions. thats just a lil flocked up but its a business they gotta make that bank too. and most of us here will get the patch paying or otherwise for the 360. im just a fighting game fan, even though i really dont care for vf much at all i still got vf4 and evo when they came out on day one, i could kick my self now waste of a 100 bux. and vf5 still havent played it in months it just looses it glamour with me for some reason, im more excited about sf4 and kof XII than this vf revision, hell i will take it one further and say im looking fwd to the new 3dish samurai showdown lol.