WTF?! it's one or the other. all those lists are retarded. there is no secret. you can either A: forget it. (best choice) B: guilt her in to taking you back. (won't last long) C: cry until she gives you a mercy bang. I'm sure Paul will come in here with a wall of text about alpha males and backhanded complements juking her into wanting you above food and water. I don't buy any of that crap though. sometimes you don't get any choice in the matter. if she's done for good. you're just spinning your wheels. This is the reason I dont post a lot, cuz Inky usually says what I'm thinking and the thing about the make up , wow I choked I was laughing so hard Inky you were wrong for that, but told so much truth at the same time