I had to register to post on this. I have never seen so much ignorance, it truly is blissful. Tekken 4 is an improvement on the series!? Hahaha. You guys obviously know nothing about fighting games. Ask some of the best veteran Korean, and Japanese players(Oh wait you don't know any of them because you don't go to evo, and travel to play fighting games). Well I do. They will tell you how damn dissappointed they are at Tekken4. The collision boxes are garbage, everybody has an infinite, and no you cannot escape the infinites I am talking about. They are done with a pre-calibrated control list so they can be done. The fact is, they are there. I saw on another review that this rivaled Virtua fighter? Are you flocking crazy? You must not have played VF that long. Virtua Fighter has a counter for every counter, every move there is multiple options on what you can do to counter, escape, or block it. Tekken 4 is a joke in the Tekken Series. Tekken 3 and Tekken Tag are much better. Ask the pro's since obviously you guys have NO freakin clue how to play fighting games at all. Have you guys even heard of the Evolution tournament? Onetami Haiken? Word of advice, go to tekken-zaibatsu, and learn your stuff about Tekken. That is where the largest community of tekken veterans are. Post that Tekken 4 is the best in the series, and prepare to be flamed DAMNNN! You guys must just play on your little emulation machines, because when you play real competition with a joystick, traveling to play people, it is a lot different. I honestly cannot believe the level of ignorance I am seeing. I have been playing since the first Tekkens initial release, and loved Tekken, Tekken 2, Tekken 3, and Tekken Tag. I was very disappointed with the release of Tekken 4. It is garbage, worst in the series. I hope they redeem themselves with Tekken 5.