In Response to Swithin "Vietnam was to stop communism from spreading. Made sense under the zeitgeist of the time. The whole world thought that way. We didn't enter Iraq to stop anything, and it sure as hell doesn't make sense to any other country (except our personal fluffer, 'Great' Britain.)" While this may be true, don't forget that much of our Cold War involment abroad was fundamentally motivated by profit. A perfect examble would be Nixon/Kissinger's "Track Two" plans to oust Salvador Allende, who campaigned on the platform of appropriating much of Chile's natural resources. While this may be decidedly left-wing, it hardly qualifies as Stalinism, or Maoism, and Track Two was only brought to the drawing table after relentless lobbying by IT&T Copper. Another example would be Guatemala, where US intervention was the result of lobbying by United Fruit. "The sad truth is that America *is* racially fractured, why else would we" *need* a Black Caucus? So kinda they are [racist]... in that the stated purpose of the group, who are elected officials, is to represent black Americans more strongly than white Americans." An interesting viewpoint, however that logic could be extrapolated to state that any group championing the cause of a certain demographic is fundamentally inequitious; ie...the womens suffrage movement would have been "sexist." Also, a sizable amount of the members of the Black Caucus are elected from majority-black neighborhoods, so in essence these indivuduals are just representing their constituency. It is also worth noting that only two black men have been elected to the Senate since the Civil War. "...and that's certainly not addressable without a surprise secession (Oregon, Washington, British Columbia - Let Our Powers Combine!!!)" How about BC, Oregon, Washington, California, Hawaii, Alaska? "People's Democratic Republic of Pacifica," anyone? edit...while i realize Alaska is an |R|state, they generally tend to be Ted Negent-esque wierdo Republicans, which I can deal with.