Alright, first off, the ps2 is the winner at faking out graphics, think about the way they show off finaly fantasy, splinter cell, metal gear three and two, and def jam (might not count because of EA) , but the only good graphics for these games are the theatrical media in the game compared to what the games look like on the X-Box, the next console war may (in my opiniun) set out a master of video game console making next to the PC, meaning that only one company will come out alive controlling the rest of our gaming lives, if nintendo dies, microsoft just made more money, and ninetendo, they started a rage like no other against sega with the SNES, won, then they started it with the PS and lost, then they started it with ps2 and x-box and lost again, even tho the 3 straight out went for sega (SOB'S!), and now on the 4th console battles in the past and current 2-3 decades , one will be a winner making the fifth generation of consoles (im not counting atari) , and well, microsoft is full of power freaks and guys that just want money, I want ninento to win, even tho there controls are gay, and some of there games are ment for little kids, (I don't like the idea of MARIO SUNSHINE and I didn't even like the style of it), there actually passinat for games, microsoft even tho I have sopported them the most in the past, aren't just living up to what they can make...