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  1. You are setting yourself up for some devastating examples. KOF, Metal Slug, Jet Set Radio, Samba de Amigo, and so on and so forth. Good games don't need to garner hype. It helps their sales, sure, but they are still, none the less, good games. Red Faction II is a damn fine FPS. Damn fine. It would be hard to pick between that and Halo. But, with Halo 2, it is a different story. Everything that made Red Faction better seems that have been implemented and improved in Halo 2. So, Red Faction has no ace in the hole to compete with Halo 2. Anon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My point was, that if no one knows that a game is good, then it will never be regarded as such. If you don't advertise your games and no one ever plays them, then what's the point of it being good? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You are confusing "good" with "popular." There are very, very few commercial games that have NO recognition whatsoever. Good, but unpopular/unhyped games become sleeper hits (a la Beyond Good & Evil) or develop "underground" followings (such as KOF). In these ways, they are recognized as good games, just not by the media outlets that make a game popular. If you were to say "I've never heard of this game, so it can't be good." you would essentially be saying "I like only what I am spoonfed by the media." More importantly, you would be missing out on a LOT of good games. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <SNIP> But good games become popular, almost without fail. I think you may be confusing popularity with Spike popularity. When I say popularity, I refer to popularity among the gaming scene. Not among middle aged men who prefer watching pseudo Rugby to a good game of Space Invaders. <SNIP> Now Red Faction sounds familiar, so I probobly saw it just as I entered the scene. Samba de Amigo...sounds foreign. Maybe I missed it cause it was never released in Japan/America/Europe. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Right, we were talking about Hype, and Hype usually means "Spike Popularity." Good games do usually become popular within the gaming scene, but I'd say even that is affected by hype and "Spike Popularity" somewhat. The hyped games tend to become more popular more quickly. I guess it depends on who you are willing to include in the "scene" though, as there are many types of gamers. That gets too complicated to bother with here. And yeah, Red Faction had at least as much advertisement as Beyond Good & Evil, and probably a little more (BG&E was largely ignored by its publisher in favor of marketing XIII at the time). You probably just missed it, but it's good fun. Samba de Amigo was one of those underground titles as I recall.. A maracas sim for the dreamcast, was it? A very niche title on the littler-known system of its time, definately not set to be a huge mainstream hit, but wholeheartedly advocated by those who have played it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wtf? A maracas sim? How would that even work? Now, having hype doesn't mean a game is bad, that just means that a broader, or simply different, group of people enjoy playing it. Hype is not required for a game to be good. But a game that everyone raves over can be assumed to be good. Halo is another easy to play but hard to master game, which makes it popular to the "Spike population". It certainly isn't a bad game. The biggest argument against it is that it's been done before. But only on PC. And it didn't have the same sci-fi coating. The story is a popular point of Halo as well. There's a book series about it you know. If you look at the sound and graphics, those are great, too. The sound is easily better than any PC FPS I've ever played. And I've played most of them at one point or another. The controls, though a little slow, just seem to fit after you play it. It ends as an enjoyable game.
  2. I'll just throw in the fact that I support RandomGuy's statements. Supporters might make the opinion seem more valid. My support might not, it depends what you think of me, but most support does.
  3. Damn long quotes. It isn't working. It's together, I put windows on it. Twice. I keep getting errors for some reason. Now, an issues completely unrelated to anything else at all. The CD Drive stopped reading CDs. Worthless piece of crap. That's one of the things I didn't buy new though.
  4. You are setting yourself up for some devastating examples. KOF, Metal Slug, Jet Set Radio, Samba de Amigo, and so on and so forth. Good games don't need to garner hype. It helps their sales, sure, but they are still, none the less, good games. Red Faction II is a damn fine FPS. Damn fine. It would be hard to pick between that and Halo. But, with Halo 2, it is a different story. Everything that made Red Faction better seems that have been implemented and improved in Halo 2. So, Red Faction has no ace in the hole to compete with Halo 2. Anon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My point was, that if no one knows that a game is good, then it will never be regarded as such. If you don't advertise your games and no one ever plays them, then what's the point of it being good? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You are confusing "good" with "popular." There are very, very few commercial games that have NO recognition whatsoever. Good, but unpopular/unhyped games become sleeper hits (a la Beyond Good & Evil) or develop "underground" followings (such as KOF). In these ways, they are recognized as good games, just not by the media outlets that make a game popular. If you were to say "I've never heard of this game, so it can't be good." you would essentially be saying "I like only what I am spoonfed by the media." More importantly, you would be missing out on a LOT of good games. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> See though, I've heard about Beyond Good & Evil. Beyond Good & Evil had ads, it had reviews, it had a lot of things. I hear about it often. From many varied sources. It IS a popular game. If a game is truly good I WILL hear about it. Good games get talked about. Samba de Amiga was never talked about. If it's a really old game, and it was talked about a long time ago, then maybe I just missed it. But good games become popular, almost without fail. I think you may be confusing popularity with Spike popularity. When I say popularity, I refer to popularity among the gaming scene. Not among middle aged men who prefer watching pseudo Rugby to a good game of Space Invaders. Now some games fit a certain niche, becoming "underground". Underground games get dumped there for a reason. Only very specific people enjoy them. You'll hear about nearly every game just by subscribing to a few magazines. The only ways I miss a game that might be good, are 1. It's old. as in before I started really paying attention to the scene, or 2. It's a PC game. My PC sucks so I don't play them much. PCs also tend to flood me with errors because they don't like me... Thus I pay less attention to PC games. Now Red Faction sounds familiar, so I probobly saw it just as I entered the scene. Samba de Amigo...sounds foreign. Maybe I missed it cause it was never released in Japan/America/Europe.
  5. Guess it depends on your community.
  6. Well.. except for the potentially superior graphics, mouse + keyboard control, and unsurpassed level of additional user-made content, including TC mods that amount to free online games. Granted, the graphics may not be a big deal for you, and you may not prefer a mouse + keyboard (which is crazy talk, but to each his own), or you may have a mouse + keyboard for the XBox. But, you can't dispute the extra content, except to make an extremely generalized "it all sucks" statement, which would just be stubborn. Both PC and consoles have their ups and downs, but neither is entirely eclipsed by the other. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Potentially" is the key word on graphics. I do prefer a mouse and keyboard, which IS available, if you really want one. And the extra content all sucks. No, some of the extra content is good. The biggest problems with PC games is the amount and cost of the equipment required to run them. An XBox, the game, a controller, and a 12 month LIVE subscription kit, costs about 300 dollars. A reasonably usable gaming PC costs at least 400. Which is what I paid for mine. But then, it was missing a monitor, windows software, speakers, a mouse & keyboard...and I STILL haven't gotten it working, because getting them working requires knowledge the masses don't have. Computers are too variable to find a good tutorial on how to get one running, and most forums tend to overwhelm new users. I'd try asking here, but I don't even know what I'd need to ask. And thanks for the Voxel info. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But you can use computers for things other than play games. My computer is like a multimedia system in that I watch all my movies on there (DVDs, etc...) because I prefer the extra 35hz refresh rate I get on a monitor (80hz compared to 50 for tvs). And because of the faster refresh rate, even a direct port from xbox to pc is going to look nicer, and the pc is far more cutting edge graphics wise anyway. Computers are easy to get running, just rtfm. Mouse and keyboard are infinitely better and you'd have them anyway so you don't need to buy them just for the xbox. I'm sure you could draw up a list that counters my list, and then I could deaw up a list to counter that. Basically, I guess, it all comes down to preference. edit: Whoops about the voxel thing. I confused "Voxal" with "vector" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What's rtfm? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Read The F*cking Manual <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I did read the manual, that's how I got it together in the first place.
  7. Regardless, I find out about the majority of what I play via magazine advertisements and reviews. I think I may have seen a Red Faction ad once, but Samba de Amigo I've never heard of. Ever.
  8. Ironic how most of them have pokemon avatars no? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's a Pokemon themed site...
  9. Well.. except for the potentially superior graphics, mouse + keyboard control, and unsurpassed level of additional user-made content, including TC mods that amount to free online games. Granted, the graphics may not be a big deal for you, and you may not prefer a mouse + keyboard (which is crazy talk, but to each his own), or you may have a mouse + keyboard for the XBox. But, you can't dispute the extra content, except to make an extremely generalized "it all sucks" statement, which would just be stubborn. Both PC and consoles have their ups and downs, but neither is entirely eclipsed by the other. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Potentially" is the key word on graphics. I do prefer a mouse and keyboard, which IS available, if you really want one. And the extra content all sucks. No, some of the extra content is good. The biggest problems with PC games is the amount and cost of the equipment required to run them. An XBox, the game, a controller, and a 12 month LIVE subscription kit, costs about 300 dollars. A reasonably usable gaming PC costs at least 400. Which is what I paid for mine. But then, it was missing a monitor, windows software, speakers, a mouse & keyboard...and I STILL haven't gotten it working, because getting them working requires knowledge the masses don't have. Computers are too variable to find a good tutorial on how to get one running, and most forums tend to overwhelm new users. I'd try asking here, but I don't even know what I'd need to ask. And thanks for the Voxel info. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But you can use computers for things other than play games. My computer is like a multimedia system in that I watch all my movies on there (DVDs, etc...) because I prefer the extra 35hz refresh rate I get on a monitor (80hz compared to 50 for tvs). And because of the faster refresh rate, even a direct port from xbox to pc is going to look nicer, and the pc is far more cutting edge graphics wise anyway. Computers are easy to get running, just rtfm. Mouse and keyboard are infinitely better and you'd have them anyway so you don't need to buy them just for the xbox. I'm sure you could draw up a list that counters my list, and then I could deaw up a list to counter that. Basically, I guess, it all comes down to preference. edit: Whoops about the voxel thing. I confused "Voxal" with "vector" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What's rtfm?
  10. A lot of people are, indeed, celebrating his death. Check this forum out... http://www.serebiiforums.com/newforums/sho...ead.php?t=41871 Most of this forum is strongly christian. I participate in debates there, but it's me against a million on most issues.
  11. Well.. except for the potentially superior graphics, mouse + keyboard control, and unsurpassed level of additional user-made content, including TC mods that amount to free online games. Granted, the graphics may not be a big deal for you, and you may not prefer a mouse + keyboard (which is crazy talk, but to each his own), or you may have a mouse + keyboard for the XBox. But, you can't dispute the extra content, except to make an extremely generalized "it all sucks" statement, which would just be stubborn. Both PC and consoles have their ups and downs, but neither is entirely eclipsed by the other. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Potentially" is the key word on graphics. I do prefer a mouse and keyboard, which IS available, if you really want one. And the extra content all sucks. No, some of the extra content is good. The biggest problems with PC games is the amount and cost of the equipment required to run them. An XBox, the game, a controller, and a 12 month LIVE subscription kit, costs about 300 dollars. A reasonably usable gaming PC costs at least 400. Which is what I paid for mine. But then, it was missing a monitor, windows software, speakers, a mouse & keyboard...and I STILL haven't gotten it working, because getting them working requires knowledge the masses don't have. Computers are too variable to find a good tutorial on how to get one running, and most forums tend to overwhelm new users. I'd try asking here, but I don't even know what I'd need to ask. And thanks for the Voxel info.
  12. You are setting yourself up for some devastating examples. KOF, Metal Slug, Jet Set Radio, Samba de Amigo, and so on and so forth. Good games don't need to garner hype. It helps their sales, sure, but they are still, none the less, good games. Red Faction II is a damn fine FPS. Damn fine. It would be hard to pick between that and Halo. But, with Halo 2, it is a different story. Everything that made Red Faction better seems that have been implemented and improved in Halo 2. So, Red Faction has no ace in the hole to compete with Halo 2. Anon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My point was, that if no one knows that a game is good, then it will never be regarded as such. If you don't advertise your games and no one ever plays them, then what's the point of it being good? The problem with hype, is a lot of people go, "Hey, everyone likes this game so it must really suck." and refuse to play it. Popular games are popular for a reason. Jet Set Radio seemed pretty popular as I recall... Samba de Amigo is another thing I've never heard of, but judging from the nature of the site's members, I'd say it's another hardcore fighter. KOF seems kindof repetitive if they come out with one every year. I can't see it improving any more than a sports series. On top of that, most fighting games involve extremely complex terms and maneuvers. Non hardcore fighters get overwhelmed by them, and prefer to play simple fighters. Like Mortal Kombat, or Budokai, both popular. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well why was it that I've heard of every game mentioned in the recent dialogue, inclusing red faction (of course) and samba de amigo, and yet I'm in a backwater country where only a fraction of the time or money is spent on hyping games? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because you talk with these people more, who talk about these games. I'm assuming. Where'd you hear of them?
  13. It doesn't look like 4 is about to wrap up the story at all. The enemies in that game aren't zombies. It even says, in game, that they aren't zombies. From my point of view, they completely ditched the old story. All of a sudden, Leon Kennedy works for the government and begins searching for a little girl I don't recognize in Europe, where he's attacked by angry amish cultists armed with pitchforks. It's a fun game, to be sure, but they've still ditched the story.
  14. Everyone uses Winamp. I'm using it now. I use it for more than just listening to music too. It's excellent for converting files.
  15. It's almost funny how much Americans mutilate common words. Football...French Fries...Potato Chips, they're all wrong! French Fries are neither French, nor fries! How did we make such a mistake?!
  16. Halo 2's soundtrack is incredible, I want it. Badly. Pat Ames - 100Base10 Ethernet Cabling
  17. You are setting yourself up for some devastating examples. KOF, Metal Slug, Jet Set Radio, Samba de Amigo, and so on and so forth. Good games don't need to garner hype. It helps their sales, sure, but they are still, none the less, good games. Red Faction II is a damn fine FPS. Damn fine. It would be hard to pick between that and Halo. But, with Halo 2, it is a different story. Everything that made Red Faction better seems that have been implemented and improved in Halo 2. So, Red Faction has no ace in the hole to compete with Halo 2. Anon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My point was, that if no one knows that a game is good, then it will never be regarded as such. If you don't advertise your games and no one ever plays them, then what's the point of it being good? The problem with hype, is a lot of people go, "Hey, everyone likes this game so it must really suck." and refuse to play it. Popular games are popular for a reason. Jet Set Radio seemed pretty popular as I recall... Samba de Amigo is another thing I've never heard of, but judging from the nature of the site's members, I'd say it's another hardcore fighter. KOF seems kindof repetitive if they come out with one every year. I can't see it improving any more than a sports series. On top of that, most fighting games involve extremely complex terms and maneuvers. Non hardcore fighters get overwhelmed by them, and prefer to play simple fighters. Like Mortal Kombat, or Budokai, both popular.
  18. What's wrong with Red Faction is that I've never even heard of it. Are you sure it exists? This is why people "hype" games. If no one knows about it, it doesn't matter if it's good.
  19. Why do you hate Halo dude? What's wrong with it?
  20. Jesus Christ people. Hint: If you don't want to get banned from LIVE, don't mod your XBox. It's hilarious that these people are actually wondering why they got banned. Their response is either "They shouldn't have seen the chip!" or "I, like most of the people here, have no idea why I was banned."
  21. Haha! You lamers went to school today. I worked the opening, it was fun. I didn't get to see any Master Chief armor though... I picked up my copy and have been happily playing it since. The first Halo was only slightly above average. The best thing about it is that it wasn't on the PC. But Halo 2 flocking owns. And it has online play, which defeats all purpose of using an actual PC rather than a console to play a FPS.
  22. That's a pretty sexy orc right there. Point to Smilee. Now, to commemorate the release of Halo 2, find me a RING SHAPED OBJECT!
  23. I was using M$Word just now, and realized that Xbox is correctly spelled, while Gamecube is not. Just wanted to share this info with the masses.
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