Weirdy Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 but then again, hiding/destroying evidence is a crime too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryph Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Hmm...then I should just have a big magnet laying around and some nice static material to toss in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 wouldn't it be a bummer if they raided you when you were reformatting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooz Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 (edited) Why do we keep electing officials who pass this crap? Edited April 21, 2005 by Dooz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I agree with the fines and whatnot for unreleased stuff because it's just stealing... plain and simple. Once it is released though, you buy it, you own it... don't you? As far as I'm concerned you should be able to do whatever you like with it - it's yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooz Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 What I don't understand is why the penalty is greater then if you stole the actual film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Stealing the film is just a felony. Just another robbery. Copying it lowers the income of corporate giants - now you're in trouble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeval Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Stealing the film is just a felony. Just another robbery. Copying it lowers the income of corporate giants - now you're in trouble!<{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's part of it, I'm sure. Another big part of it is that releasing warez, and even downloading them from a peer-to-peer network, assists other people in stealing even more of the product. It's as though you snuck into a video store, stole their entire stock, and started handing them out in front of the store. That's a lot more people who won't be paying for the product, and the store is out wholesale costs AND profits on all that product. In the case of filesharing, large corporations lose out on profits, even though they paid the same production costs, and retail stores further down the chain lose out on sales as well. Even if the file was only available for sharing for 20 minutes from your system, that's 20 minutes you were assisting others in stealing that product, so it makes sense that the fine is higher than for stealing the product itself. However, I think the proportion is a little off. If you were sharing for 20 minutes, and maybe 15 people got a total of 30K of a 600MB file from you, the fines they are hitting people with would be way out of proportion. That would be like stealing a movie, letting a friend record 3 minutes of it, and getting fined $10,000. Releasing full albums as part of a release group, and similar larger-scale operations are a different story. Those guys know they are commiting major crimes, and the damage they do is different. These are people who bust the front door in and put a big sign out at the street so everyone knows. But I guess it's a question of ethics then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryph Posted April 22, 2005 Share Posted April 22, 2005 Think of it this way, people caught with drugs are not dealt as severely as dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted April 23, 2005 Author Share Posted April 23, 2005 This is precisely why I have tiny explosive in my PC case incase I'm ever raided. Just flip a switch and BAM! Evidence gone.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>You know, it just hit me. Have you been watching The Broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryph Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 This is precisely why I have tiny explosive in my PC case incase I'm ever raided. Just flip a switch and BAM! Evidence gone.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>You know, it just hit me. Have you been watching The Broken?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>No, I'm just naturally paranoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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