Agozer Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/Virtual...3~99713,00.html flocking finally dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryph Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I was just about to come and post this. Here is an open letter by Hector Ruiz, AMD Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,7832_1...l?redir=CORBF02 Here is the important info:According to the complaint, Intel has unlawfully maintained its monopoly by, among other things: * Forcing major customers such as Dell, Sony, Toshiba, Gateway, and Hitachi into Intel-exclusive deals in return for outright cash payments, discriminatory pricing or marketing subsidies conditioned on the exclusion of AMD; o According to industry reports, and as confirmed by the JFTC in Japan, Intel has paid Dell and Toshiba huge sums not to do business with AMD. o Intel paid Sony millions for exclusivity. AMD's share of Sony's business went from 23 percent in '02 to 8% in '03, to 0%, where it remains today. * Forcing other major customers such as NEC, Acer, and Fujitsu into partial exclusivity agreements by conditioning rebates, allowances and market development funds (MDF) on customers' agreement to severely limit or forego entirely purchases from AMD; o Intel paid NEC several million dollars for caps on NEC's purchases from AMD. Those caps assured Intel at least 90% of NEC's business in Japan and imposed a worldwide cap on the amount of AMD business NEC could do. * Establishing a system of discriminatory and retroactive incentives triggered by purchases at such high levels as to have the intended effect of denying customers the freedom to purchase any significant volume of processors from AMD; o When AMD succeeded in getting on the HP retail roadmap for mobile computers, and its products sold well, Intel responded by withholding HP's fourth quarter 2004 rebate check and refusing to waive HP's failure to achieve its targeted rebate goal; it allowed HP to make up the shortfall in succeeding quarters by promising Intel at least 90% of HP's mainstream retail business. * Threatening retaliation against customers for introducing AMD computer platforms, particularly in strategic market segments such as commercial desktop; o Then-Compaq CEO Michael Capellas said in 2000 that because of the volume of business given to AMD, Intel withheld delivery of critical server chips. Saying "he had a gun to his head," he told AMD he had to stop buying. o According to Gateway executives, their company has paid a high price for even its limited AMD dealings. They claim that Intel has "beaten them into 'guacamole'" in retaliation. * Establishing and enforcing quotas among key retailers such as Best Buy and Circuit City, effectively requiring them to stock overwhelmingly or exclusively, Intel computers, artificially limiting consumer choice; o AMD has been entirely shut out from Media Markt, Europe's largest computer retailer, which accounts for 35 percent of Germany's retail sales. o Office Depot declined to stock AMD-powered notebooks regardless of the amount of financial support AMD offered, citing the risk of retaliation. * Forcing PC makers and tech partners to boycott AMD product launches or promotions; o Then-Intel CEO Craig Barrett threatened Acer's Chairman with "severe consequences" for supporting the AMD Athlon 64TM launch. This coincided with an unexplained delay by Intel in providing $15-20M in market development funds owed to Acer. Acer withdrew from the launch in September 2003. * Abusing its market power by forcing on the industry technical standards and products that have as their main purpose the handicapping of AMD in the marketplace. o Intel denied AMD access to the highest level of membership for the Advanced DRAM technology consortium to limit AMD's participation in critical industry standard decisions that would affect its business. o Intel designed its compilers, which translate software programs into machine-readable language, to degrade a program's performance if operated on a computer powered by an AMD microprocessor. And here is the full 48 page document (PDF): http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_ty...l_Complaint.pdf If Intel really did this...then wow, I hope they pay through the nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybarite Paladin AxL Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I seriously hope Intel dies, the last part gets on my nerves: Intel designed its compilers, which translate software programs into machine-readable language, to degrade a program's performance if operated on a computer powered by an AMD microprocessor. Dude they are just like EA games ffs, scared crap of competition, omg, Intel you suck, you knew you couldn't beat AMD so you turned cheap you faggots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryph Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Yeah, despite AMD having superior processors in every segment: desktop, server, and gaming, they still haven't penetrated the market. I always thought something fishy was going on but I had no idea it was this bad. It's completely reprehensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i l l m a t i c Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 yeah its about time...down with intel!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuken Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 didn't know intel was this evil, AMD all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucandrake Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I'm so glad my computer has a AMD !!! Hehe, I hope intel dies, they suck anyways!!! Believe in the timecube!! http://www.timecube.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryph Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I'm so glad my computer has a AMD !!! Hehe, I hope intel dies, they suck anyways!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You know, there is a difference between a rational response and a dumb response. This is an example of the latter. Some of the other responses also fit into that category. There is no reason why Intel should die. There needs to be competition or AMD would become the next Intel. And plus we always need a competing brand just to say it sucks. The goal of this lawsuit is to punish Intel for using strongarm tactics and to level the playing field, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucandrake Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I'm so glad my computer has a AMD !!! Hehe, I hope intel dies, they suck anyways!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You know, there is a difference between a rational response and a dumb response. This is an example of the latter. Some of the other responses also fit into that category. There is no reason why Intel should die. There needs to be competition or AMD would become the next Intel. And plus we always need a competing brand just to say it sucks. The goal of this lawsuit is to punish Intel for using strongarm tactics and to level the playing field, that's it.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why thank you for explaining in detail what I do wrong gryph. I know now (from the last time everyone forced this kind of topic in my head) that competetion is a good thing. So why bother stating it again? Is it me or do you just like picking on the idiot in the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryph Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Why bother stating it again? Because you obviously haven't learned anything. And did you just realize that I like picking on the idiots on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucandrake Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Why bother stating it again? Because you obviously haven't learned anything. And did you just realize that I like picking on the idiots on the board.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> No I didn't gryph because I am not an idiot, this is just something I rather not try to learn about, a field I have no knowledge of. Actually, I have learned something, you like to be right about everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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