Wizard Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Sessler made Jack Thompson his bitch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yREGBKZggwA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryph Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Uh, no. Adam Sessler blew it. He got way too emotional successfully made Jack Thomspon look good. G4 is just horrible, pure and unfiltered crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 I disagree K`dash, Jack Thompson I believe had the lead in this one and same with the other parent. This is the first time I ever watched a video and actually saw the guy (Jack Thompson) speak. He seemed very knowledgeable on the topic, and I even would say Rockstar has put too much crap in their games. Many children out there don't have intelligent parents to not tell them to play the game or purchase it. By far, Sessler looked like the most uneducated guy talking with his slurred speech and robust body movements. He just seemed like an average gaming fanatic who only speaked out of the blue. Only the parent was able to talk some sense into Thompson, and even then, Thompson put on the table many key factors from why he thinks games like GTA should be banned for children, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 (edited) Half those keyfactors are the same ones that got him in trouble the past 2 years with alot of things. Including an investigation on his license and a true inquirey on his "statstics." He's a troll and everyone knows! Alot of people say otherwise what happened there. I know G4 is pretty much crap, but atleast it's Canadian counter part is still alot better. EDITZ: they should work on this, a full on debate on G4, like what they did way back when for MP3s and copyright infrigment! good times! Edited August 11, 2006 by K`dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Thompson put on the table many key factors from why he thinks games like GTA should be banned for children, period.The games are not targeted towards children; it's targeted towards the majority of gamers (who are adults according to the ESA). Parents need to be a little more responsible. Yes, I know there are a lot of parents who try to keep up with some sort of standard, so they work a lot; but I think that is irrelevant. If an adult works too long to actually do some parenting, then they shouldn't be having kids IMO. Therefore, I blame parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Thompson put on the table many key factors from why he thinks games like GTA should be banned for children, period.The games are not targeted towards children; it's targeted towards the majority of gamers (who are adults according to the ESA). Parents need to be a little more responsible. Yes, I know there are a lot of parents who try to keep up with some sort of standard, so they work a lot; but I think that is irrelevant. If an adult works too long to actually do some parenting, then they shouldn't be having kids IMO. Therefore, I blame parents. As much as we say they shouldn't be having kids, they do. Look at these single mom's at age 16 trying to be parents and having grandma (who has no clue about games) let her grandson play GTA or even purchase it for them (just an example). This is the world we live in, enough fallacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Either way I still blame parents. I know that there are stupid 13 - 16 yr. old girls who get knocked up who's baby eventually ends up being raised by their parents (the child's grandparents). However, you have to remember that old people may be too tired themselves to even do any parenting. If one child whines and cries because they want something, you think they're going to put their foot down? AFAIK, many legal guardians who are grandparents just choose to appease so the child can shut up while they're fast asleep on their recliners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 Nevermind the young 16 year old, that in it's own right it's a bad problem. What about the 25 between 40 aged parents that still buy these games without even a notion about the ESRB ratings? Take a eye off the work load and watch your kids. There are some parents who blow off the games as just games and don't have a second notion that they're kid ain't gonna be leading the next "Doom" murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Nevermind the young 16 year old, that in it's own right it's a bad problem. What about the 25 between 40 aged parents that still buy these games without even a notion about the ESRB ratings? Take a eye off the work load and watch your kids. There are some parents who blow off the games as just games and don't have a second notion that they're kid ain't gonna be leading the next "Doom" murder.Those parents are a very small portion of today's society. Most people around that age don't have the time to play games, not even myself. The only way for us to be successful is to have a job and work (and maybe some hobbies on the side such as this one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elazul Yagami Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 blame the damn parentsthese are the same parents that drug their kids up on ADHD medication because their kids are being *SHOCK!* KIDS! a kid being hyperactive and not focusing? that's a disease? when i was a kid, that was called BEING A KID. these are the same flockwads that don't want to take responsibility for crap. i agree mature games shouldn't be sold to kids, but that's already more or less being enforced...if a parent buys it for their kid, who's fault is it?would you buy your 12 year old a porno?no you wouldn't, but if a parent did, is it the fault of the porno industry or the parent? yeah...reminds me of that "the final insult" thing i posted a while back... let me dig it up and post it. This is from a section called " the final insult' that's in (or used to be in) a British Magazine called "PC Format" i typed it up and posted it WAAAAAY back when i first joined zmd, for those who haven't read it or can't remember it, enjoy. -------------------------------------------------- Quote:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Final Insult :-------(The roar of the greasepaint, the smell of the crowd .the final insult's been tasting television stardom .)--------------- The call came from Binns one sunny afternoon as I was tending to the geraniums. " listen, you," he pleaded, " we've been invited to go on some God-awful discussion programme to defend PC games, but none of us can be bothered. I've got too many phone calls to make, Jim's got a manicure booked, and Adam and Dave are playing tiddywinks. Look, Do you want to do it or not?" as if he needed to ask. Fortified by a few swift drams, I headed off for the studio. I've devoted the rest of the page to a transcript of the important part of the broadcast- which is, the part I was in. For some reason it was never actually transmitted. TELEVISION STUDIO. OILY PRESENTER IS LISTENING TO A TEARFUL NARRATIVE FROM DISTRAUGHT MOTHER. MOTHER:..... last week he was convicted for murder, and if it hadn't been for these computer games I know my son would be with me today . PRESENTER: I'm sure he would, love. You've been very brave.[TURNS TO THE FINAL INSULT]Well, we've had allot of upset mums telling us this morning how computer games have caused drug abuse, burglary, death, devil-worshipping, genocide and the collapse of civilization as we know it. You're responsible for all this, Mr. Insult.What have you got to say for yourself? THE FINAL INSULT : Sorry? Did you say I was responsible ? How did you come to that conclusion? PRESENTER : You write for one of the most popular computer magazines in the world. you're encouraging innocent youngsters to expose themselves to the insidious horrors that lurk within all computer games. So it's down to you. THE FINAL INSULT :Ah,right. So by the same token, are you personally responsible for the existence of our victim society that teaches people to whine about how everything that goes wrong in their life is someone or something else's fault ? PRESENTER : Ha ha ha ha ha. That's rather ducking the issue, isn't it? And I don't think it's going to make Brenda here feel any better, is it love? MOTHER: Certainly not. My son was a good boy until you got him addicted to computer games, and now he's in prison . THE FINAL INSULT: is this the " good boy " who already had a substantial police record before he obtained his PC? And who actually got his PC by ram-raiding an electrical store? MOTHER: I'm not saying he wasn't a bit of a tearaway. But he never actually killed anyone before he started playing Computer games. THE FINAL INSULT : I see. Might I suggest that you're a hideous, neurotic ball of lard, and an unfit mother to boot? Your Son's a yob and you're trying to direct the blame for his psychopathic tendencies away from your pitiful failure at parenthood. MOTHER: I didn't come here to be insulted, you know. THE FINAL INSULT : I don't see why not. I imagine it makes quite a nice change from being insulted at home, you malodorous ratbag. And the same goes for the rest of you, you bunch of irritating excuses for parents. Every single one of you is trying to blame PC games for your children's misdemeanors, because you refuse to face up to the fact that you made a miserable hash of bringing them up properly. [THE AUDIENCE BECOMES RESTLESS]If you want a real example of anti-social behavior caused by computer games, get a load of this. [PRODUCES AN ARMY SURPLUS ROCKET LAUNCHER] PRESENTER : Good God. Clear the studio! THE FINAL INSULT : Now, I've played quite a lot of a popular game called QUAKE, and it's left me with a great urge to 'gib', or blow to little bits, anyone I don't really like the look of. And as far as I can see, that includes every single one of you.Who's first? PRESENTER: Not so fast! [PULLS OUT A LIGHTING GUN AND A QUAD DAMAGE] If you're starting, I'm ready for you. Your move, creep . At which point it all gets a bit blurred, really. but I'm almost certain that's what happened. Or did I dream it? All these myriad computer games - it sometimes leaves me a little confused about what's real and what's not. Still, no harm done, eh? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- you know... in egypt when they tried to pull this "games are corrupting our kids" sensationalist crap, based on resident evil... the paper was laughed at... by EVERYONE. hell dude. the news these kids watch is worse than the games they play. 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solidius23 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 i put some blame on parents who just buy their kids a game cuz the lil bastard whined for it and the parents dont pay attention to the raiting, but that is just on video games. if the same kid wanted to see a R or even a pg-13 movie the parent would be all over that saying no.but for most teenage kids who absorbs games as being real, thats their own fault, they are weak and feeble minded enough to run with the fantasy then some one failed them early in life to establish strong mental reality to them. lol apparantly they didnt get enough love or beatings as a kid. on another note rockstar or any other publisher who makes mature or AO rated games are making those games for ADULTS its just a prime example of wanting the forbidden fruit in the kids/teen case. the parents just need to balls up and say no plain and simple. Oh and btw jack T is a pretentious ass and for every point he tried to make there are studies that destroy it. adam ses just got too emotional, in fact he went into the whole thing like that which hurt his cause for gamers and made jack look like roses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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