DropDeadEd Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 Brock Lesnar's last fight (and only) was a joke and should not be considered anything. Frank Mir does not lack in stand up, he trained Kempo Karate and kickboxing -- his problem is that he gases a lot. His submissions are really quick and lethal though, and all we know about Lesnar is that he's a great wrestler. How's Lesnar's submission defense and game? Could he defend against a lethal submission artist? What? Mir has been known to suffer from a weak stand up game. His last two fights have proved this. He has never been the same since the accident. Brock might take this one easily if Mir doesn't become hungry for a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salorskin Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Perhaps you're distorting the line of good stand up and old fashion gas outs here my friend. As far as I'm concerned we have yet to see anything amazing by Lesnar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DropDeadEd Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 Perhaps you're distorting the line of good stand up and old fashion gas outs here my friend. As far as I'm concerned we have yet to see anything amazing by Lesnar... you're telling me Frank Mir gassed in one minute against Brandon Vera? Lesnar showed he had power to make Min Soo Kim tap out from guarded strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatal Rose Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Perhaps you're distorting the line of good stand up and old fashion gas outs here my friend. As far as I'm concerned we have yet to see anything amazing by Lesnar... you're telling me Frank Mir gassed in one minute against Brandon Vera? Lesnar showed he had power to make Min Soo Kim tap out from guarded strikes. Vera is one of the BEST strikers in MMA. Lesnar made some tomato can tap from guarded strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DropDeadEd Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 Perhaps you're distorting the line of good stand up and old fashion gas outs here my friend. As far as I'm concerned we have yet to see anything amazing by Lesnar... you're telling me Frank Mir gassed in one minute against Brandon Vera? Lesnar showed he had power to make Min Soo Kim tap out from guarded strikes. Vera is one of the BEST strikers in MMA. Lesnar made some tomato can tap from guarded strikes. Min Soo Kim took several punches from a man like Mighty Mo Sigilia. Granted, he was eventually knocked out. But, to see him tap out to only a couple from Brock in guard is something noteworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salorskin Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 HAHAHA he took the fight in like a week or two days notice! Anyways, if it shows anything noteworthy it's that Lesnar has a good ground and pound... IF it even shows that. We know nothing about Lesnar's stand up game whatsoever. He's a mystery man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S.D Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 No F5?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 forget Lesner, heres the real question. why can't guys from pride win in the UFC. with the exception of rampage I haven't seen one recently hyped pride guy do anything but get punched in the face repeatedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salorskin Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Anderson Silva's from Pride. Anyways, a lot of UFC fighters that fought in Pride had lost in the past. The rules difference is a huge factor and it takes time to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Anderson wasn't hyped though. I am talking about the cro cops, the wanderlai silva's the shogun hua's there have been a few others recently I can't think of right now. I mean from what I had seen of the axe murder I was expecting a brutal exciting fight. instead dude just stood there and got punched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatal Rose Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 There is more factors playing into there defeats, but to set here and list/dwell on them would just be tedious, annoying, and sound like excuses. In the end they lost, as all fighters do at some point. Most UFC fighters that went straight to PRIDE and a fought a top pride fighter/pride veteran got defeated too. So it go's both ways, different ring format and different rules ultimately change everything. fighters just need time to adjust is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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