Arcades 2.0 is coming

[ressurectionx]

Hello everyone,

 

The dumb n00b is me...

 

My first post here at 1e and I don't want to step on BP's toes, but I just wanted to add something to make the vote more informative. If the direction of Arcades were "A", then it is possible to make an option in the GUI to have the "rubbish" roms automatically turned off on your first load and then they would only be accessed by people who actually wanted to try them out by physically going into the options menu and turning them on. All in all they only take up .2 to .5 GB max and wouldn't even be noticed by anyone who didn't want to ever play them.

 

The bonus of this is that any of those games that went in, no matter how primative or unenjoyable some might think they are, will all be mapped perfectly so those who wanted to play them wouldn't be stuck using the scanning feature to add a game, only to find that the game doesn't play right (ie mapping horribly off, bad name convention in the GUI, bogus category in GUI, etc.)

 

This, I feel, would make Arcades the most versatile emulator for every demographic. It's already superior to every other MAME emulator in the scene. I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... Having the ability to choose to play every working rom on this emu or not would make this emu the tits.

 

That's all I have to say, and I won't be posting in this thread again. Thanks for your time, and thanks to BritneysPAIRS for a fantastic emulator.

 

~Rx

[nuka1195]

How about mouse support.

 

I think there use to be an adapter, but, the company is no longer in business.

 

Would make games like missle command playable.

Edited February 28, 2008 by nuka1195

[bulge2]

i personally believe that having every working rom would just turn arcades into a cluttered mess, like mame-x. after been shown images of some of the rom request for arcades this has confirmed this - there is a load of sh1te roms out there, which should never be included.

 

perhaps people should put forward decent rom requests that can be tested rather than loads of old toot.

 

does anyone really play stuff like this??????

 

[trev1976]

im looking at something pretty new soon by looks.. ill let you know soon. For now I may release a final Arcades patch to you guys.

 

A question for you guys is do you want

 

A) All games including ones people havent heard of and all the cheap games

A) All games including ones people havent heard of and all the cheap games and mahjones Casino games

C) All the top games and most other good games

D) All the top games in a really flash interface

 

Ill need at least 5 votes ard here im sure

 

Deffinitly D , i cant see the point of have loads of crap games your never gonna play , but thats my opinion

[dr99]

i personally believe that having every working rom would just turn arcades into a cluttered mess, like mame-x. after been shown images of some of the rom request for arcades this has confirmed this - there is a load of sh1te roms out there, which should never be included.

 

perhaps people should put forward decent rom requests that can be tested rather than loads of old toot.

 

does anyone really play stuff like this??????

 

 

yeah these games look pretty crappy, if these are included it would be cool to have the option to filter them out.

[scumball]

im looking at something pretty new soon by looks.. ill let you know soon. For now I may release a final Arcades patch to you guys.

 

A question for you guys is do you want

 

A) All games including ones people havent heard of and all the cheap games

A) All games including ones people havent heard of and all the cheap games and mahjones Casino games

C) All the top games and most other good games

D) All the top games in a really flash interface

 

Ill need at least 5 votes ard here im sure

 

Deffinitly D , i cant see the point of have loads of crap games your never gonna play , but thats my opinion

 

I vote D too...

[BritneysPAIRS]

Looks like Arcades Plus ( c ) is done now (in Beta) added this

 

 

http://www.thraxen.com/BritneysPAIRS/added.txt

 

added rebuild of simpsons and TMNT in 2 player as well they will run standalone now eg 2 player or 4 player or both its up to me to decide now. Before 2 player was a clone of 4 player... 270 odd games you can thank ressurectionx for doing the major work I just tidied them all up

Re keymapped 50 plus games remove duplicates found tidied up cats added new classic section.

 

Now deciding on weather to add features to arcades or move to my mockup with 50 or so games

Concept for after arcades , the pic in back is video playing (this is D)

 

Edited February 29, 2008 by BritneysPAIRS

[fumanchu]

hi bs.

id been meaning post this earlier.

ive been playing the capcom vs series on arcades and i noticed that you cant perform a suoer jump on none of the games.fbaxxx and kawax lets you do this.the superjump function is performed by pushing one of the back L or R buttons on the controller on fba.

xmen-children of the atom

xmen vs streetfighter

marvel vs capcom

marvel super-heroes

marvel superheroes vs streetfighter

ive tried different button combinations on the controller but i just cant seem to get it to work,dont suppose you could maybe have a look into this.

thanks again.

[ressurectionx]

Great list. I have all of the ones that needed fixes ready to test in my spreadsheet whenever you release it. I know I said I wouldn't post in this thread, but that was just for the "lobbying" for your question. I have a few suggestions too before your build comes out........

 

 

 

Good games not added yet that would need to be remapped:

 

Arkanoid Returns - Cannot move paddle. Can we map this to the Dpad?

 

Cloak & Dagger - Can we remap so Dpad controls your guy instead of Analog Stick.

 

Demolition Derby - Can we remap this so the Dpad controls the car instead of the R & L Triggers?

 

Escape from the Planet of the Robot Monsters - Can we remap so Dpad controls movement instead of Left analog stick?

 

Free Kick - Can we fix the paddle? It doesn't move at all in Arcades.

 

Heavyweight Champ - Can we remap movement to Dpad and figure out how to map the punching? Seems like a pretty good boxing game.

 

Inferno - Works and you can control everything, but it's just impossible to play the way that it's mapped. It's both analog sticks like Smash TV would be, but you still have to press A to fire on top of it. Too much for one pair of hands. It would be great if maybe we could map the gun pointing stick to also press A at the same time no matter which direction it's pushed and then it might work like Smash TV did. This game is really good, despite first impressions.

 

Krull - Can we remap direction to the Dpad instead of the Left Analog Stick?

 

Snake Pit - Can we remap so Dpad controls movement instead of Left analog stick?

 

The Return of Ishtar - This one is probably complex to fix and I don't know if it can actually be done. Game was definately ahead of it's time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_of_Ishtar

 

Two Tigers - Can we remap it so Left and Right on the Dpad turn your plane and not the L & R buttons? This one was one of my favorites when I was a little kid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Games already included that I thought could stand to be remapped:

 

Ambush - Can we fix the mapping so your ship can take off? All the ship does is ride the launchpad until your ship hits a wall.

 

Bad Lands - Can we remap so Dpad controls direction instead of L & R buttons?

 

Front Line - Can we remap so L & R control gun direction? It's too hard to move with left stick, change gun direction with right stick and press A to fire at the same time.

 

Nekketsu Kauha Kunio-kun - Can we remap to reverse the X and A buttons? Would make more sense if X attacked left and A attacked right.

 

Night Striker - Can we remap direction controls to Dpad instead of the left analog stick?

 

Ninja Commando - I think you should be able to turn your guy. Can we try mapping gun direction to the L & R buttons?

 

Renegade - Can we remap to reverse the X and A buttons? Would make more sense if X attacked left and A attacked right.

 

Rampart - Can we remap movement to the Dpad instead of the Left Analog Stick?

 

Rough Ranger - Can we remap so B is jump and A is attack like every other game? These are backwards.

 

Splat! - Can't throw anything. I don't think the attack button is mapped.

 

 

There are probably more of the original roms that I could find that would work better remapped, but I accidentally happened upon these in my testing and just randomly playing. I'll probably go over those this weekend and give you any suggestions I have. Thanks BP

[scumball]

Move to the new build - Arcades is brilliant, but I would love to see this new interface with a top 50 games

[BritneysPAIRS]

The list of games is changing a bit ( a few games a day added or removed during beta...beta will last for 2 weeks and although I think its ready I like to sit on it for 2 weeks to iron out stuff I see)

 

Then its up to you guys if you want a top game EMU or more features to Arcades or every game patch

 

 

Issues

 

ressurectionx

you had your time to listen no offense I cant spend hours of time on stuff for me it was a simple sort out your stuff and had or have no time to explain go over everything and fight with you about symantecs... your full list looks terrible IMO with 300 extra games that look worse than master system games. a few of those games you listed that didnt make it were the closest to nearly making it but in the end were cut due to bad control and not really worth sorting for me as they where ok games but so many others like them. The added keymaps have been looked at, for reference ambush is working fine you just need to know how to play it... hold B down to accell to 300miles dont hit the wall then take off then you can shoot stuff with A. Stuff like Nekketsu Kauha Kunio-kun is a good idea and done Front line is done but watch out it nearly got cut due to hard controls, you cant turn the gun in ninja commando it is how it is watch the demo it doenst rotate and no keys for it to..............................(analog for digital replacement is not recommended as analog is used).

PS I cant comment on every good change ive made or change recommended that I scrapped as you see half the changes are good and half are bad, its no offense I want to know but not all changes wanted are correct IMO. Ill look at all of them but cant comment on all of them as it would eat time when I could be just fixing everything which is what I am choosing to do with my time. I cant except your patch sorry as you dont want to go over the wrong stuff which is all im interested in the good stuff is changed but there is tonnes of wrong stuff the above is a list of first 5 or so games you can ague it if you want but im sure I did my homework on each one. There is lots of good changes that I was unaware of so its all good but they are done and fixed and I did credit you up above

 

fumanchu

the keys to do what you wanted are X + Y + White and A + B + Black and work ok, they are hard to time to get it right. Ill be looking into L/R trigger to be all punchs or all kicks in all streetfighters etc as it is used in more than just what you say. EG somesuper moves in SFAs. Looked into this but the interface doesnt allow it sorry bummer

Edited February 29, 2008 by BritneysPAIRS