Hk vs Coinops, Which do you use the MOST?

[Bonus JZ]

Bonus JZ you say this splits some that know emulation and those that dont.... I know about emulation but I feel sorry for general people that want to enjoy emulation without know it all emulation people using a steep learning curve putting them off.

 

Shame on you Bonus let people that want to play just grab a package and play without learning a whole new mamehead language. For you want a elitest package I understand but I know of how many issues are in HK build and its many many issues that have been fixed, plus there so many GUI features missing that arnt skin related or are skin and code related, plus it runs on a nice HD TV now and looks pretty maybe not exact aspects but on a 42inch LCD it isnt close to the same as old school days.

 

Take care

 

lol shame on me LOL - you just few days ago dint even know what is attract mode ........... I'm simply don't understand , if they cannot figure out few simple options how they plays games on other xbox emulators like snes ,genesis, nes ,amiga ,pc cd etc which have lots of them ?

 

I'm really sorry that not everybody uses Coinops "something" - just live with that , also I'm not a man who likes to lick boys ass and can have Me own opinion on free forum.

 

PS:

Also read carefully because I have writer show proportion not split and that a big difference

Edited December 29, 2008 by Bonus JZ

[BritneysPAIRS]

your such a great coder and help out so much it people like you that make the emulation world get further and further ahead hehehehe sorry just joking ..... hey honestly im just jokin with you, you take it very seriously and only have tech knoweldge no real skill to help it a shame you should learn about the real stuff under emualtion and help out its all open source . I have no issues with people not using my build and promote hk build and fbaxxx to some people at least to try it as its more what they want Coinops is coded for a dif audience... its up to them but you my friend are amuse me with your passion and I love to see it

[Bonus JZ]

Sorry ..... but I don't see you push emulation futher .

I'm more artist than coder - and have me own hobby - just live with that . You want to make builds for Mommy's - do it - hell i care .

 

I'm just represent diffrent point of view in this (read carefully topic title) - without make it personal - so grow up Britney Spears and stops making personal offtopics

Edited December 30, 2008 by Bonus JZ

[dirk hermans]

to be honest i also see not much changes in Coinops else then skinning and little bit programming and adding some games. Also the releasing is always very bad, confusing releasenames, announcing months before a new version but when the release is ready it seems a beta etc... missing roms or functions.

 

all basics were made in `Mamedox` since 2005 by Ebsy and HK$ till now i see no big improvement.

 

i appreciate youre work and efforts but also appreciate some critics!

[BritneysPAIRS]

I dont release never have..... id say coinops is alot diff from mamedox and I know it is coding wise as I also helped with Mamedox and can see all the coding changes (the changes from Mameox to Mamedox is about 50 changes Mamedox to CoinOPS is at least 500 more little changes).... Roll back to Mameox and use it for a while if your using coinops and you will see they are vastly different really.

 

I any sorry im just pissing around if I want something done I tend to do it if not I tend to listen to people talk about it and sometimes they dont relise how easy it is if they spent a few hours looking into it and less time talking about it they could do it. Critisim is all good cause I do it for what I want thats it really I listen to peoples option just to see if I want it in then I decide for me its just what I want in the build. I have offered many other features in source but everyones to lazy to do the compiling of there own builds. For me running CoinOPS in HD with a simple intuative GUI and not worring about any settings works great for me and I have listened to all what people said and purely for me if its not there I dont use it so its gone....its nothing personal.

 

ive asked for people to test to help to do little work for stuff and it allways ends up with if I want something ill have to do it myself so as I said from day one this is what I want, I know people will hate it and hate the decision for the new build but it has never stopped me in the past and ive seen nearly everyone talk the talk and leave and do nothing real and im still doing what I want my mame to look like. Critising is all good by the way but is pointless im still just adding stuff I want as I allways have and given stuff to general public at times out of my control then.... I love the passion people show on forums and little to do with actaully making anything that people use or want, it amuses me. But due to passionate people saying they dont want a build till its ready no more Betas etc will ever be released and ignite will be months and months away as the scope is very large and people dont want multibuilds even though a few games now go that never did on any other build and some have been fixed that havent on any other build

Edited December 30, 2008 by BritneysPAIRS

[A Murder of Crows]

This topic seems pretty dead, but i wanted to chime in anyway....

 

 

 

So, BP has done an AMAZING job of getting an easy to use interface on one of the most complicated programs on the xbox. Out of all the emulators used, FBA-XXX Pro and this get used the most. They are simple, easy to understand, and they work.

 

 

I have MameOx 128 on all my machines because i have a 128mb ram upgrade on both. I keep it on there because BP said a year ago that he didn't think it was an option worth keeping. I argued my point on this, but he went forward with that mentality anyway....that it's "bloat" because "most" people don't use it.

 

 

I never had much success with MameOX 128. Most of the roms i had with it were missing files, and no one ever released a 100% perfect working gamelist. That should have happened, a LONG time ago....every game that worked on MameOX 128 Plus with 64mb ram and 128mb ram should have been made into dats and released out to the world as a full package.

 

 

I like the idea of having an emulator and romset where you KNOW everything is going to work. I like the idea of not having 20 different versions of the same game show up....so long as all the known glitches, fixes and tricks are available on the version that's included

 

 

I never liked the idea of games being excluded due to someone's vision. Unplayability is a good reason to remove something, but not personal taste/choice. If there is no easy way to configure controls, get it out of there. Framerate of 5 FPS? unplayable, get it out of there, move it to a list to be fixed later. Pornographic? So What?? If it plays, it should be able to work.

 

 

Lastly, options. I'm a BIG fan of options. I'd rather have the ability to adjust everything than not. However, i like that a lot of options have already been taken care of for me in CoinOps....i don't HAVE to configure custom controls to make a game playable...

 

This doesn't mean i don't want more though....I want to replace MameOX 128 Plus completely. To do so, BP would have to add in all the options and abilities that MameOX has in the Advanced Options mode. 128mb, Screen ratio size, filtering, etc.

 

I'm sure it would be really easy to re-add all the original options and have it as a MameOX 128 CoinOps fork.

[fumanchu]

the only advantage of having the extra ram in mame128 is that it plays streetfighter1,was always to slow with 64mb(but is now fully playable on coinops and fbaxxpro thanks to iq132).the extra ram dosent make the slightest bit of difference to 3d games like tekken.when it comes to other emus then really its just surreall64 that benefits from the extra ram.

as for a compatibility list there is one over at xbox scene for mame128 but take it at face value as some of the games that says dosent work well they do work.

[BritneysPAIRS]

No games have ever been removed on any version of mine ever (just not optimed eg left the same as all the other versions now 1250 games have been optisied).... and hk version misses many many features of coinOPS even though it has many features I dont. 128Meg feature is supported.... screensize aspect ratios is supported in some ways, but I wont ever stretch vertical games (all options have to be put in correctly if im to put them in) Filtering is in as well

Edited January 21, 2009 by BritneysPAIRS

[A Murder of Crows]

No games have ever been removed on any version of mine ever (just not optimed eg left the same as all the other versions now 1250 games have been optisied).... and hk version misses many many features of coinOPS even though it has many features I dont. 128Meg feature is supported.... screensize aspect ratios is supported in some ways, but I wont ever stretch vertical games (all options have to be put in correctly if im to put them in) Filtering is in as well

 

 

You added 128mb back in? This is what i get for being homeless for 5 months.

 

You're actually still on my msn list, haven't been able to talk to ya yet though. Is the 128mb feature documented, or is it automatic.

 

Much props, i stand corrected.

[stf]

I never liked the idea of games being excluded due to someone's vision. Porn...

 

No exclusion, it's only a priority for the testers and the author to release the most famous or enjoyable games taken from a very long gamelist (I know everybody don't have the same tastes and it's difficult).

Step by step all the games are scanned and maybe some day there will be a release with the working fullset done. A lot of time is spent for that but more is needed (work, wives...).

Anyone can bring his own roms, scan them, test, configure, and this could help. .

A lot of people wanted the betas and were ready for tests, where are they now ?

Mahjong testers are welcome in the PM box.

Edited January 21, 2009 by stf

[Neo369]

Definitely CoinOPS. BP has done an amazing job on this. Thats rly all there is to say. Skin is great. All ROMs that I use work. Easy to use (no confusing options). Two thumbs up and I'm pumped for Ignite final!