Lucandrake Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 Then how about just bringing down the quality of the parts? I still think you can build a really good machine even with the prices that are listed, you just have to tweak things here and there (like Shiba said, 6 GB triple channel is nice, but do you really need it?). I managed to build a decent rig with 600 (later on I upgraded my card with 150 on the side as well). I did have a lot of help from the guys here and locally, I still think it's possible for you to do it.
Sybarite Paladin AxL Posted December 10, 2010 Author Posted December 10, 2010 That's true but my parents have already agreed on spending the money so really, might as well make a decent rig that'll last. I can upgrade parts later on down the road.
Shibathedog Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 that motherboard can't even use 3 sticks at a time. You really shouldn't buy that kit. You will end up putting only 2 of the 3 sticks in.
CJ Jackson Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) Tip: if you already got a AM2+ motherboard, check if the latest bios support "AGESA 3.7.0.0" , some motherboard manufactures will tell you that, some won't especially with earlier AM2+ motherboards (they want money), if that the case open up the bios file in notepad and then find (F3) "!!AGESA" and next to that there should be a version number, if it is 3.7.0.0 then the bios should support all AM3 CPU's including Phenom II x6 (except 1045T & 1075T so avoid those CPU's, at least 1090T is fine). Whatever you do, don't modify the bios, it best to create a copy of the bios file before opening it in notepad! I just notice that Shiba was recommending system with Gigabyte boards! Edited December 12, 2010 by Hexter
ken_cinder Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 Just make sure you don't buy an AM3 only motherboard, and an AM2/AM2+ CPU! They are NOT compatible, even if you remove the keying pins on the CPU (Which still works in an AM2 mobo afterwards).You need an AM2/AM2+/AM3 motherboard, and yes there are boards out there that are made for AM3 only.
CJ Jackson Posted December 12, 2010 Posted December 12, 2010 (edited) Just make sure you don't buy an AM3 only motherboard, and an AM2/AM2+ CPU! They are NOT compatible, even if you remove the keying pins on the CPU (Which still works in an AM2 mobo afterwards).You need an AM2/AM2+/AM3 motherboard, and yes there are boards out there that are made for AM3 only. The reason why AM2/AM2+ CPU don't work on AM3 only motherboard is because those CPU's lack the DDR3 controller, while the AM3 CPU has both DDR2 and DDR3 therefore works in either AM2+ or AM3. The only benefit the AM3 only motherboard has is DDR3 which has 5% to 10% performance over DDR2, DDR2-800 should be good enough for all computer games as of today, anything above that is practically an overkill. DDR2-800 is the minimum for AM2+ and AM3 CPU's. Also DDR2 rams don't work in AM3 board and DDR3 rams don't work in AM2/AM2+ boards Edited December 12, 2010 by Hexter
ken_cinder Posted December 14, 2010 Posted December 14, 2010 I think manufacturers should start offering boards with upgradeable NB/SB. Then they can key RAM all the same, and it's just a matter of replacing your NB to use a higher speed RAM. With AMD's CPUs having their memory controller on the CPU itself, this makes such a thing even easier.
CJ Jackson Posted December 18, 2010 Posted December 18, 2010 (edited) By upgradeable you mean socketed NB/SB, well the manufacturers got rid of socketed BIOS just to cut cost and I believe ASUS still uses socketed BIOS'es and some gigabyte board use dual-bios. Anyway I been playing Super Mario Kart Wii on Dolphin and it runs smoothly with AMD Phenom II x6 1090T on DDR2-800 RAM. Edited December 19, 2010 by Hexter
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