gamez fan Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) well i would have asked BritneysPAIRS himself on the chat board elseware but alas i could never follow the rules was just the same in school always gettin into trouble well im sure someone will mention this post to him at some point or maybe not anyway ive been thinking about the midway cores in coinops 4 and it's got me thinking in the FAQ's it states all midway roms must be roms midway folder or they might not load correctly these would be mamexb6 romsmkmk2narcnbajamnbajamte thing is there's now another midway core in this emu based on mame0.72 theres a few midways that will now play full speed with soundusing a added mame core now a few users and BP himself reakon mk2 plays better in mame0.72 im guesing here as i dont have therelease but to launch mk2 in mame 72 wouldnt you have to move it to romsmidway72 folder thereby removing it from romsmidway folderwould that not mess up the other midway games using mamexb6 with regards to how they load hmmmm might need to have 2 mk2 romsone in romsmidway and the other in romsmidway72 to sort that of course BP might have already sussed that and added a fix Edited April 6, 2012 by gamez fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destronger Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) well, let's take fbl as a much easier example. we know that it has many different cores. however the roms are in all the same folder. (if that's the way you want it) the roms will only work if it's core is represented and targeted to that core. so bp can make a game run on any core he pleases if it works with that core. he makes all these folders for some odd reason. it may make sense to him. Edited April 6, 2012 by destronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ T + Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Surely you just put the ROMs you want to run in the MAME-X core in the mamex folder and the ROMs you want to run in the MAMEoX0.72 core in the mame0.72 folder. I haven't used CoinOPS for a long time but I don't see why it would be otherwise. Incidentally, in some testing I did a while ago I didn't notice any significant difference in MK2's performance between MAME-X b6 and MAMEoX 0.72. They both use basically the same driver and the performance issues are due to the Xbox hardware. Some Midway games do run on MAMEoX 0.72 though that don't run in MAME-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
law56kerz Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Does anyone know why the sound, particurally the annnouncer not in sync with the game. The announcer says names of players that aren't even playing in the current game and there is also other strange mistakes. I think that the newer versions of pcsxbox are the best way to play Nba Jam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destronger Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 i find it funny actually when playing... but the reason is that midway games could not be emulated well on the xbox when these were released. i don't know how well it's improved since then (mame .145 now) but i know that midway games have always been a hog when it comes to emulation. i don't know why bp has decided to emulate these. in coinops3 these were mainly just xbox ripped games. but then again he may have figured something out. on a side note: why haven't these games been put into final burn? answer: the dev's of final burn aren't interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamez fan Posted April 6, 2012 Author Share Posted April 6, 2012 Surely you just put the ROMs you want to run in the MAME-X core in the mamex folder and the ROMs you want to run in the MAMEoX0.72 core in the mame0.72 folder. I haven't used CoinOPS for a long time but I don't see why it would be otherwise. yes its that simple and you include the launch pointers in the roms folder and your set to go thing is there might be an issue if you remove mk2 from romsmidway folder and put it inside the romsmidway72 folder heres how according to the coinops FAQS you need all 5 roms in romsmidway or you might find coinops will launch the wrong rom say you click narc you might get nbajamthis happened to me when i 1st set these games up in coinops 2 cause as im space saving alot i figured why have 2 nba jams that more or less play the same so i left tournament edtion out of the romsmidway and i had problems but hey presto put nbajamte back in and everything was sorted so that why i think if you shift mk2 across to romsmidway72 you might need to have another in romsmidway so narc etc will load correctly i guess if a coinops 4 standalone is released at some point i could try this out an see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destronger Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 most likely it's the locks bp puts in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ T + Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 The problem with the announcer is due to the older driver, it isn't an Xbox-specific problem. There's nothing that can be done about it, without updating to a newer (slower) driver. I think even the latest MAMEoX driver had this issue. according to the coinops FAQS you need all 5 roms in romsmidway or you might find coinops will launch the wrong rom say you click narc you might get nbajamthis happened to me when i 1st set these games up in coinops 2 cause as im space saving alot i figured why have 2 nba jams that more or less play the same so i left tournament edtion out of the romsmidway and i had problems but hey presto put nbajamte back in and everything was sorted so that why i think if you shift mk2 across to romsmidway72 you might need to have another in romsmidway so narc etc will load correctly I see. Seems like a strange way to do things but fair enough. Although, if you have the MAMEoX0.72 core, I don't see why you would need to run any games in the MAME-X core. Performance should be about the same. on a side note: why haven't these games been put into final burn? answer: the dev's of final burn aren't interested. Every time you mention Midway games in Final Burn, iq_132 kills a kitten! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamez fan Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) I see. Seems like a strange way to do things but fair enough. Although, if you have the MAMEoX0.72 core, I don't see why you would need to run any games in the MAME-X core. Performance should be about the same. me and a few others recently tested a few midways it was to figure in which core the games would play best these are the results everyone kindaagreed on there was a performance diff for sure on a stock xbox mamexb6mknarcnbajamnbajam te mame0.72mk2mk3judge dreddrampage world tourumk3wrestlemania 2on2 open ice challenge and nba hangtime never played well at all unless the mame0.72 core has been optimized since i played these Edited April 7, 2012 by gamez fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destronger Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) Every time you mention Midway games in Final Burn, iq_132 kills a kitten! on a side note... i have a new signature!! Edited April 7, 2012 by destronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ T + Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 on a side note... i have a new signature!! Damn. I guess that's gonna add up to a lot of kittens then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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