Alpha Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I've been quite active lately on reddit's /r/emulation subsection and I wanted to share this answer to a question that was asked regarding the existence of a 3DS emulator. The writer is "ThatSandersKid" ( http://www.reddit.com/user/ThatSandersKid ) and is by far the best explanation I have found online in 2013. To be clear: No working 3DS emulator exists. Here is the reason why...Here's an actual technical explanation to why this hasn't happened yet, and won't for the foreseeable future: The Nintendo 3DS uses a relatively standard ARM11 dual-core processor, here called "Nintendo 1048 0H". This is a big step up from the ARM9 processor used in the DS/DSi, and has a great deal more in the way of processor instructions than the ARM9. The good thing about this is that this is used in a very wide variety of products, including a wide variety of mobile phones, the Raspberry Pi, and the Zune HD. Consequently, and due to the nature of the ARM architecture, it's very well documented. The problem is that the 3DS uses a custom GPU called the PICA200 made by a small Japanese design firm called Digital Media Professionals (DMP). This is partially why the amount of games coming out for the system in the first year was so small, because programmers simply weren't used to the design. Because the PICA200 isn't a standardized design like ARM processors, the documentation for it that is available to emulator writers is low to practically nonexistent. It's theoretically possible to translate most of the commands to the GPU into standard OpenGL ES 2 commands (because we know that it does that much), in a manner otherwise called "High-Level Emulation", in much the same way the N64 was/is emulated. It would be fast, but it wouldn't be terribly accurate, and some things might break because of it. It's also unknown (to me, someone else might be able to correct this) if the DMP200 GPU handles the instructions for DS games, or if that circuitry is on the CPU die (which seems more likely). The lack of documentation or understanding of the DMP PICA200 is the main impediment to a usable 3DS emulator. For comparison, and this is just a comparison, the two systems have little to nothing in common: The design differences from an architectural/emulation standpoint between the DS and 3DS are much more different than they are in the GameCube, Wii and Wii U. That is, the 3DS is more different from its predecessor than the Wii U is, and that creates a learning curve for programmers and a bigger challenge for emulator developers. Taking this comparison one step backward, the differences in the GBA and Nintendo DS, from an architectural standpoint, were much more well-understood, the GBA used an ARM7, and the DS was cracked relatively early so programmers could run arbitrary code on the system to explore how it works, which aided in understanding the (comparatively simple) GPU on the DS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 And beware of those sites that let you download a "3DS" emulator... it's actually malware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Core Rikki Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 There's a handful for new consoles already, like that renamed pcsx2 build promoted as a working Xbox One emulator and as a firsttime setup step sends you to an ad-filled webpage filled with malware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Yeah, ps3 emulators, ps4 emulators, vita emulators, xbox 360 emulators... the places to catch malware are endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devia Eleven Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 The newest and last console to be emulated at this point in time is the Wii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masaki1988 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Yes guys 3ds emulator is real. Its call citra and he can already run many games but without sound (by now). I create two video guides about this emulator to help people run games. How to decrypt games and run on citra How to run pokemon x.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5-ObfuYi2I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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