And more than 1 year after 0.96.0 : raine 0.97.0 !!!

[Tux]

1 - I was tempted to say it's not really a bug, it's super minor and you are the only one using this at least from what's reported on the forum, but the fix is trivial, just reset exit_options when opening the game options, so I did it.

2 - gui options / return mandatory

C - yeah if it can't find the key you just pressed in the following games in the list, then is starts to look for it anywhere in the game title, that's for when you don't remember the whole title ! This thing is made to be used very fast, and I can confirm it does its job well !

D - not sure, well just press return in this case, I won't bother to look why it didn't select it as it should have done in this particular case.

 

[mer-curious]

On 12/9/2024 at 6:43 AM, Tux said:

1 - I was tempted to say it's not really a bug, it's super minor and you are the only one using this at least from what's reported on the forum, but the fix is trivial, just reset exit_options when opening the game options, so I did it.

Hello Tux! I'm sorry for the late reply.

Thank you for this fix! I'm glad it was easy for you to do it.

 

On 12/9/2024 at 6:43 AM, Tux said:

2 - gui options / return mandatory

Thank you for the tip. I didn't know about that option. I was wondering if this wouldn't be another case of making an alternative option as default in Raine since it is the most common behavior, that is, you select/highlight a game and then you confirm its loading by using Enter and don't have it loaded by chance when using the keyboard letters...

 

On 12/9/2024 at 6:43 AM, Tux said:

C - yeah if it can't find the key you just pressed in the following games in the list, then is starts to look for it anywhere in the game title, that's for when you don't remember the whole title ! This thing is made to be used very fast, and I can confirm it does its job well !

I understand now the behavior. So it does have a logic...

But my idea is that the game selector menu worked as the same as every other file selector we have interacted with in the computers, so if you press a letter it will select every item with that letter in the beginning, and if you press another letter it will try to find items with that letter in the beginning too, always wrapping around the items list to find an item starting with that letter. It would be simpler and more intuitive I guess...

 

On 12/9/2024 at 6:43 AM, Tux said:

D - not sure, well just press return in this case, I won't bother to look why it didn't select it as it should have done in this particular case.

In this case it had to highlight Darkstalkers and then Double Dragon, no? Because it was the next game in the list starting with the letter D. But the cursor remains in Darkstalkers... I'm not sure if this is expected though...

Anyway, it would be great if you could reconsider the way the game selector works with the keyboard. I think it wouldn't make a huge difference, but it would certainly make it more intuitive for new users I guess...

Now I would like to add something new to my post...

I tried to load Super Street Fighter 2 X: Grand Master Challenge and Raine downloaded a new romset from archive.org. I found it strange because I already have this romset in my arcade games folder. So I went and checked it to see what happened:

The one I have in my arcade games folder is this:

The one Raine downloaded is this:

Curiously the one in my arcade games folder works fine in FBNeo, so I guess it's because it has already been updated to support the new rom versions recommended by the MAME project, right?

I was wondering if it wouldn't be time to update the romsets in Raine too, and then you could redirect the downloads to the FBNeo archive.org romset until someone updates the Raine full archive. This would prevent this issue of having two different versions for the same game in the computer. It's not really a huge issue because most of these games are very small in size, but if you had something like a tool to easily sync the new romsets with Raine, maybe it could be worth it updating it, no?

Anyway, I'll wait your comments on this too...

Thank you so much for your time and for always replying fast in the forum.

[Tux]

D : I remember now, it's just that the key sequence you type is the sequence which is searched, so if you type twice D, it means you are looking for DD, which can be dangerous in case you have a game whose label contains DD, like top hunter, the neogeo game... ! If you are not sure, it's better to enable the "return mandatory" option.

I didn't do that to be standard, just to find a way to be as fast as possible with the keyboard, it works well.

And for the mame update : it's a never ending headache, I stopped following their nonsense years ago, all this should have been done differently normally (preserving the old rom sets and just adding the new ones with an increasing number when they are found), it would preserve compatibility with all versions, and usually the most recent version hasn't got very important changes. So well I accept patches to update the romset if you feel like it, if not, you'll have to be patient because I really hate doing this stuff !

[Tux]

I took the time out of curiosity to search when they did that change : in mame 177 precisely, it was in 2016!

It doesn't come for this rom alone of course, there are quite a lot of changes in the cps2 roms, and they can't be applied automatically because there are some differences in the way raine and mame load these roms. Which means that I'd have to manually test each change, plus it would make the new roms incompatible with the version for raine on internet archive !

Well if you manage to find at least 1 useful change in all these changes, I'll consider it, otherwise just forget it ! The ideal would probably be to be able to load roms from some external definitions files so they can adapt to all these crazy changes for those who want to follow, but it would require quite some changes... ! Plus it would probably create some other problems in some drivers which modify the rom and expect some precise bytes at some precise places (which is not the case of the cps2 driver thankfully !).