Why Are People Such Morons?

[Gryph]

*In attemps to go offtopic*

 

BLARG!

Quit spamming.

[random guy]

So if something isn't about games it's useless?

No, but talking about how the world is full of sh!t, terrorist kill people etc. etc. gets tiresome after a while....even more so if politics is involved.

Well some of us like to talk about such things and there is nothing you can do about it. My advice to those that don't like these threads: when you see a topic started by random guy that sounds remotely politcal or about the real world, no need to visit it.

You got it BUB!

Sounds good. Stay the flock out of my threads unless you have anything constructive to add

 

And seriously, some of you guys are the most apolitical fellows I've ever met - how can you be an adult of or nearing voting age in this day and age WITHOUT being extremely pissed off about the current state of world diplomacy?

Calling topics about politics 'spam' is just rediculous! No wonder so few Americans vote, if that's the attitude the majority of its citizens take! You have one chance every 3 years to make a difference, to TRULY have your say in the democratic process, you'd have to be INSANE not to take it!

Vote, you fools, vote! Unless you want a moron like Bush in charge again!

 

...And why was the Paul Johnson thread closed? Posting pictures about it is in bad taste, I agree, but that was important news! There's a difference between censorship to keep things pg-13 and censorship of important news and events. And anyway, it seems like half the threads that poor Emsley makes get closed. He's admin too, why don't people respect his authorit-ah?

True...but sometimes politics becomes so omniscient, that people choose to turn a blind eye to it. There is also the view that, whatever your beliefs are, your government, or world affairs, are so powerful, that there is nothing you can really do. It is funny, we are supposed to be a democracy, with each individual having a voice that should be heard and counted, but I don't feel that way anymore. I don't know if I have ever felt that way.

 

I think an interest in political issues is healthy...but then again, I also think having an indifference to politics is not such a bad thing either. Because politics is everywhere these days, you can easily drown yourself in it. Perhaps this is pessimistic and cynical, but sometimes it may be better to avoid it, for your own sake. For your own sanity.

 

In a way, I think cynicism about politics, and the leaders we elect, is sad. We chose them, they should reflect what we want. But of course, this never seems to happen. In another way, I think this cynicism is okay - it is showing our leaders that if they want to be re-elected, if they want our trust, they are going to have to work damn hard to achieve that. It is also telling them we do not accept everything they decide to do.

 

And no, I'm not an anarchist. But their ideas are interesting to read.

Ha ha, good point - one of the points I made in an essay about political communication is that a lot of theorists have studied the public's growing cynicism for politics and analysed various causes for that (the way stories are 'framed' in the media, for instance) but not once has a theorist stopped to think that maybe this growing cynicism is justified - and in fact a direct result of Governmental behaviour! An example of this is that when answering a question that will put the Government in good light, politicians will speak in 'soundbite' - that is, they'll speak in short, effective phrases; pretty much giving the media the perfect quotes for the 7pm news. However, when they're answering a question they don't want answered, or one that could potentially embarrass the Government, they will waffle on about bullshit for three hours until nobody remembers what the question was in the first place!!!! It seriously pisses me off.

 

...but another thing I should point out is although i am VERY cynical about politics, I still think it's very important to remain informed about what's happening on the political sphere. Not that it's likely to affect how I vote (damn two-party system!!!) but nevertheless, I think it's very important to know what's going on politically.

Edited June 23, 2004 by random guy

[Agozer]

So if something isn't about games it's useless?

No, but talking about how the world is full of sh!t, terrorist kill people etc. etc. gets tiresome after a while....even more so if politics is involved.

Well some of us like to talk about such things and there is nothing you can do about it. My advice to those that don't like these threads: when you see a topic started by random guy that sounds remotely politcal or about the real world, no need to visit it.

You got it BUB!

Sounds good. Stay the flock out of my threads unless you have anything constructive to add

 

And seriously, some of you guys are the most apolitical fellows I've ever met - how can you be an adult of or nearing voting age in this day and age WITHOUT being extremely pissed off about the current state of world diplomacy?

Calling topics about politics 'spam' is just rediculous! No wonder so few Americans vote, if that's the attitude the majority of its citizens take! You have one chance every 3 years to make a difference, to TRULY have your say in the democratic process, you'd have to be INSANE not to take it!

Vote, you fools, vote! Unless you want a moron like Bush in charge again!

 

...And why was the Paul Johnson thread closed? Posting pictures about it is in bad taste, I agree, but that was important news! There's a difference between censorship to keep things pg-13 and censorship of important news and events. And anyway, it seems like half the threads that poor Emsley makes get closed. He's admin too, why don't people respect his authorit-ah?

well I will say this. I was riding with some of my familiy and my uncle was talking with a friend and it turns out that some of his friends at the armory just got orders to go to iraq and the only reason that my uncle didn't get orders was that he wasn't on duty. So anyways chances are that my uncle is going to go too and that he will be called to go in too but maybe later but he wants to go with his crew becuase he a "track mechanic"(guys that work on tanks and stuff) and you know how americans love to break down tank in iraq. So any ways my granda was like why? tell them to flock off that you dont want to go that you want to stay, and he's like no "I can't I have to go, it's nice when your country provides all these nice things for you and good money but when they need you it's not right to abandon them, and besides we need the war" and my grandma's like why and he says "money, the war makes the money circulate, soldiers need food, clothes, medical stuff and people need jobs so who's going to get that stuff for the soldiers?"

 

yeah war maybe stupid but it's a natural part of life, I dont see you yelling at the romans for slaughtering the greeks, war has it's prices and it's rewards, so get over it.

Hmm...interesting - I remember when we had our first discussions about the Iraq war - correct me if I'm wrong but were you not one of the few people arguing that the economic cost of the war would far outweigh any gains bush got from oil?

Anyway, regardless of whether that's true or not, if you love a country, that doesn't mean you should get involved with any immoral scuffle the current leader gets you involved with. In fact, if your uncle TRULY loved the country, he should be concerned not with fighting this war, but with STOPPING the war, so that the US can salvage at least a small modicum of their international reputation, before the rest of the world starts hating America as much as bin Laden does.

Just thought I'd carry the previous quote-fest on cause I wanna!

 

btw, the next time you encounter a moron, send em here.

Sometimes I'd wish that the board filter wouldn't take liberties and screw up cool links.