Wizard Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Also, K'Dash what makes you say that Orton is getting pushed too fast. He is an awesome wrestler whose talent has been wasted for so long with him being in HHH's shadow.I quit following WWE so it wouldn't matter a whole load to me like it does to the people who watch it. It's garbage. It's too fast, he should still be a mid-carder, he's a good wrestler I agree, but champion? No, he's not, not right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S.D Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Also, K'Dash what makes you say that Orton is getting pushed too fast. He is an awesome wrestler whose talent has been wasted for so long with him being in HHH's shadow.I quit following WWE so it wouldn't matter a whole load to me like it does to the people who watch it. It's garbage. It's too fast, he should still be a mid-carder, he's a good wrestler I agree, but champion? No, he's not, not right now. I dun mind the push. It open up a lot of storylines possibilities like the breaking up of Evolution (which has happened) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugenn Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 He's pushed too fast because he hasn't been in the biz long enough to pay his dues. Look at the past champs who have really made a huge impact on wrestling: Bret, Austin, HBK, Triple H, Benoit etc, they all had long illustrous careers filled with ups and downs before got their first world title. An when they finally got the belt, you could really feel like they earned it. Orton? How many years does he have under his wing? Just one IC title reign (which ended fairly recently too) and he's now pushed to main event status. Yes, I agree he has the raw talent, but so do many other mid-carders. W/o his family connections pulling strings behind the scenes, Orton would probably be some jobber on Heat or Velocity today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agozer Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Pft...the Rock...this guy is the greatest. Hahahaha... Macho Man Randy Savage. I haven't seen any pictures of him since I played WWF Superstars on my Gameboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S.D Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 He's pushed too fast because he hasn't been in the biz long enough to pay his dues. Look at the past champs who have really made a huge impact on wrestling: Bret, Austin, HBK, Triple H, Benoit etc, they all had long illustrous careers filled with ups and downs before got their first world title. An when they finally got the belt, you could really feel like they earned it. Orton? How many years does he have under his wing? Just one IC title reign (which ended fairly recently too) and he's now pushed to main event status. Yes, I agree he has the raw talent, but so do many other mid-carders. W/o his family connections pulling strings behind the scenes, Orton would probably be some jobber on Heat or Velocity today.Family pulling string?What r u talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugenn Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Don't you know Orton's family background? His father is the legendary cowboy Bob Orton. And that is the reason for his faster than normal rise to stardom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Which is possibly the only reason why he's up at the main eventers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The TeamPlayer Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 (edited) Orton is one of my favorite wrestlers. My ONLY objection to him gaining the title as fast as he did is that he did not go through a good face period. I feel a wrestler should prove he can play both roles well BEFORE gaining the title.But if he is going to turn face then maybe it will not be too bad. I am sure he could pull it off. And what is all this talk about too many gimmicks nowdays? o_O I guess everyone that is thinking back to the old days forgets Taker dying a few times. Kane shooting Lightning. People getting kidnapped, Taker vs Taker, Birdman, Goldust stories, etc... Guys...everyone knows that Macho Man Randy Savage is a has-been. He would get his candy ass kicked by the Rock and Orton.I might agree about the Macho Man from the pics shown. But you must not remember the Macho Man when he returned to WCW with Sid and Gorgous George. That Macho would mess Orton up! OOOOHHH YEAH! And the Kane gimmick is not odd. Reminds me of the time Brian Pillman won Goldust's wife from him. I bet that in the end Lita really liked Kane better anyway and is going for a heel turn. The new Diva that wins could be a replacement face. Not that it matters since IMO Trish and Molly are the only good Diva's there are. Edited August 18, 2004 by The TeamPlayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Not that it matters since IMO Trish and Molly are the only good Diva's there are.And they know how to _actually_ wrestle. I'm not saying Lita knows how either, it's just, it's nice seeing women who can actually do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skythe Posted August 18, 2004 Author Share Posted August 18, 2004 Stacey Kiebler gives me headaches in my pants. I don't give a damn about women wrestling since all of them can't do it that well to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugenn Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 The women's division isn't about wrestling. It's a big marketing gimmick designed to draw viewership from the pimple faced, hormone charged American teenage punk by exposing as much breast and ass possible on national TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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